Suggestions for a Generator/Welder?

/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #21  
Another advantage of the Miller Bobcat is that they retain their value. You could always sell it and recoup a good bit of the cost. Used ones don’t take long to sell.
 
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Truthfully, my wife is quite easy on me. Probably because she retired 10 years ago and I'm still working and probably close to 10 more if I can. I buy lots of tools and she just says, don't you already have one of those. My stock answer is 'yes... sort of, but...'

Good days are when I retrieve the Amazon package while is away from the house. :D

I'm now warming her up for a nice bandsaw!

Yes, I would say a nice band saw is in order!! Smart thinking! :thumbsup:
 
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Another advantage of the Miller Bobcat is that they retain their value. You could always sell it and recoup a good bit of the cost. Used ones don’t take long to sell.

I see that they have really good resale value. That is the problem I am having. Hard to find in my neck of the woods. Still looking. ;)
 
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Double post.
 
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I found a bobcat 250 with 2,592 hours on it for $2750. It is a 4 hour drive one way. It was a rental unit and looks a little rough. No leads.

The more I look, the more I think a new Hobart would make more sense.
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #26  
I found a bobcat 250 with 2,592 hours on it for $2750. It is a 4 hour drive one way. It was a rental unit and looks a little rough. No leads.

The more I look, the more I think a new Hobart would make more sense.
I am not a fan of buying rental tools no matter what they are... means you got a few hours put on by many newbies and it has likely been abused and banged around plus lots of transport. Just my two cents. Would definitely prefer something with one or few owners that took care of the tool.
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #27  
I found a bobcat 250 with 2,592 hours on it for $2750. It is a 4 hour drive one way. It was a rental unit and looks a little rough. No leads.

The more I look, the more I think a new Hobart would make more sense.

I wouldn’t touch that.
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #28  
I found a bobcat 250 with 2,592 hours on it for $2750. It is a 4 hour drive one way. It was a rental unit and looks a little rough. No leads.

The more I look, the more I think a new Hobart would make more sense.

My bobcat 225nt was $1500 with 425 hrs.
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #29  
I have two generator welders. One is a Ranger, and the other is an SA 200. I've had others growing up and in business that I've dealt with. But honestly, unless it is a really dedicated, hard core machine and need that you have for such, that sort of thing is so 1990's.

Today, you are better off, buying a good, clean powered generator and buying an inverter to run off of it. I talk to pros all the time who have either done this, or are contemplating this. This way, you can always have what you need and aren't paying ridiculous prices for "add ons" to make your generator welder suitable for the process you desire.

Well, while that may not be a popular notion with some people, it is one that is gaining popularity.

You can buy a 13kw CLEAN power (essentially exactly the same as wall power, if not better) for well less than 2k under the PowerHorse line from Northern Tool. A 9kw is well less than 1k. A competent welder that can carry 200 amps stick/DC tig is 400.00 from us. So for about 2k, you can have a large generator and competent stick welder and you are set. If you want to add other units, like a TIG, which will work on that unit with power to spare and output 250 amps, you can as you need. If you just need MIG, add it for about a grand for a highly competent and portable rig. This way, you can put the unit near you and don't need to walk back to change gears.

Not to mention, the generators have wheel kits and can be wheeled around and are much more efficient than most welder generators. (and in many cases much quieter and easier to maintain).


Honestly, I do love engine drives, especially the growl of the SA200, but inverters and modern technology are slowly but surely moving these units out of the way and into museums. I don't think engine drives will ever be completely replaced, but unless you are needing over 400 amps, I wouldn't even consider it...new or used if I had to do it over again.
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #30  
I have two generator welders. One is a Ranger, and the other is an SA 200. I've had others growing up and in business that I've dealt with. But honestly, unless it is a really dedicated, hard core machine and need that you have for such, that sort of thing is so 1990's.

Today, you are better off, buying a good, clean powered generator and buying an inverter to run off of it. I talk to pros all the time who have either done this, or are contemplating this. This way, you can always have what you need and aren't paying ridiculous prices for "add ons" to make your generator welder suitable for the process you desire.

Well, while that may not be a popular notion with some people, it is one that is gaining popularity.

You can buy a 13kw CLEAN power (essentially exactly the same as wall power, if not better) for well less than 2k under the PowerHorse line from Northern Tool. A 9kw is well less than 1k. A competent welder that can carry 200 amps stick/DC tig is 400.00 from us. So for about 2k, you can have a large generator and competent stick welder and you are set. If you want to add other units, like a TIG, which will work on that unit with power to spare and output 250 amps, you can as you need. If you just need MIG, add it for about a grand for a highly competent and portable rig. This way, you can put the unit near you and don't need to walk back to change gears.

Not to mention, the generators have wheel kits and can be wheeled around and are much more efficient than most welder generators. (and in many cases much quieter and easier to maintain).


Honestly, I do love engine drives, especially the growl of the SA200, but inverters and modern technology are slowly but surely moving these units out of the way and into museums. I don't think engine drives will ever be completely replaced, but unless you are needing over 400 amps, I wouldn't even consider it...new or used if I had to do it over again.
Hard to argue with you here :thumbsup:
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #31  
I found a bobcat 250 with 2,592 hours on it for $2750. It is a 4 hour drive one way. It was a rental unit and looks a little rough. No leads.

The more I look, the more I think a new Hobart would make more sense.

With the rebates Miller is running for another ~$800 you could have a new one.
 
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Yes, no way I would buy the machine I posted. I was just giving an example of what I am seeing used.

Mark,

You definitely make some good points. I did look at the Powerhorse 13KW unit @ Northern Tool. The specs don't look bad on the generator, but I am concerned with the quality of the unit. Maybe just fine, but not sure about parts and reliability of the engine. :confused3:
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #34  
Check out this post about a generator on ebay that keeps getting reduced for short periods of time.
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/405271-duromax-xp10000eh-10000-watt-electric.html
There is also a post where a member load tested and ran fuel usage tests.
I bought one at $699. but sometimes it will be listed at $499.
Go to the generator on ebay and put it on your watch list then keep checking for the reduction.
With propane use (gas or PP) you can easily store it until you need it.
 
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Stimw,

Thank you for sharing. I just ordered 2 of them. One for my project and one for my Dad's birthday. He has been wanting a generator for his house. He will be wanting me to figure out way to convert his to run on Natural Gas.:laughing:

My thinking, at the price of $699 + free shipping for 12kw, I will find a use for it even if I don't like it for powering a welder. We will see!
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #36  
Mine was shipped pretty fast and when I got it a forklift fork had gone through the box and stabbed the battery.
I figured me replacing the battery was easier than shipping back so I called them and they sent me a battery very fast!
S--- Happens but they were quick to respond. I'm happy with it.
Mine also came with an assortment of plugs! Maybe a $60-100. bonus!
NG should just need re-jetting. ???
 

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/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #37  
Also comes with propane hose with 20 lb tank fitting! Another great bonus.
 
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That is great! This will be an interesting project.

For my Dad's needs, this generator should power his whole house. He has gas heat and water heater.

For welding, I don't know if will be clean enough power for the newer inverters. :confused3:
 
/ Suggestions for a Generator/Welder? #39  
Stimw,
Thank you for sharing. I just ordered 2 of them. One for my project and one for my Dad's birthday. He has been wanting a generator for his house. He will be wanting me to figure out way to convert his to run on Natural Gas.:laughing:

My thinking, at the price of $699 + free shipping for 12kw, I will find a use for it even if I don't like it for powering a welder. We will see!

That unit blows up welders. Not clean.

As far as the durability.. they are highly rated and many, many of our customers use them with no issues for years. Its a honda clone. Engines are solid and stable.
 
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I was able to run both Generators today and they are very nice. When the weather is a little nicer, I am going to put the scope on it under a load and see how bad it is.

I did buy a Hobart 235 AC/DC welder as well. It is just a transformer and no electronics to worry about. I doubt that machine cares if the electricity is a little dirty.

Thanks everyone for your help!
 

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