SSQA plow

[chuck172]

I'm looking for an old plow to weld on a ssqa plate and mount to the loader arms. How will the hydraulics work? Do I just connect the loader curl lines to the plow angle cylinders?
Would I be better off using the rear remotes?
I have a Kioti ck35.

 

[adirondackmtnman]

I have pondered this for my tractor, and figured I would use my rear svc. to power the angle. If you disconnected the curl cylinders, there would be nothing holding them in position. The only thing keeping me from building a pusher as you're inquiring about is I'm not certain how well the loader would handle the offset push of an angled plow...they're not really meant or built for a lot of side force to begin with, and the added angle that force will be coming in from kind of has me concerned. Wouldn't want to break my loader arms or worse, one of the castings on my rig just to find out either. If I do it, it'll probably be with a set of Q.A. plates welded directly to the plow blade with wings welded on the sides to capture the spill, as the bigger(and also more expensive) factory built snow pushers have. If you do it, post pics of the results. Good luck!!!

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[FatTire]

I ran a pair of lines to one of my rear remotes. I have an SSQA V-plow that uses a sequencing valve to obtain V, left, right, and scoop positions with just one remote, and it is still possible to set any intermediate position (straight, slight angle, etc.) Pretty slick.

 

[FatTire]

Also, there have been numerous threads covering the concern about stress on the loader arms from plowing. Nobody seems to have damaged their tractor snow plowing with an SSQA plow.

 

[chuck172]

From past threads I was really under the impression that this type of setup simply uses the loader curl circuit to angle the plow. Raising and lowereing, with float is already piped to the loader arms.

 

[skyhook]

From past threads I was really under the impression that this type of setup simply uses the loader curl circuit to angle the plow. Raising and lowereing, with float is already piped to the loader arms.

I believe your right.

 

[adirondackmtnman]

From past threads I was really under the impression that this type of setup simply uses the loader curl circuit to angle the plow. Raising and lowereing, with float is already piped to the loader arms.

I'm just curious how the plow would be prevented from rolling forward under it's own weight with the curl cylinders disconnected...

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[chuck172]

What if you connect the loader curl cylinders to the snowplow angle cylinders to control them? That's how I thought everyone does itl

 

[adirondackmtnman]

What if you connect the loader curl cylinders to the snowplow angle cylinders to control them? That's how I thought everyone does itl

What keeps the carriage assembly at the end of the arms from rolling then? That's the job of the curl cylinders. If they're not connected to the carriage assembly and the loader arm, what is to stop the whole assy. from rolling forward?

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[chuck172]

I'd like to know the answer too! Maybe others will chime in!

 

[adirondackmtnman]

I'd like to know the answer too! Maybe others will chime in!

Maybe it doesn't make a difference because the plow is on the ground, but when lifting, seems like the weight would extend the curl cylinders...maybe on a tractor with quick disconnects, it may isolate that circuit so it won't move, but mine is connected directly. I would for sure like to hear from someone who has done it.

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[FatTire]

I don't know anyone using the curl circuit to run an angle cylinder, but maybe someone on TBN does with a diverter valve? I believe most people use either a 3rd function remote or one of the rear remotes. When plowing I use the curl function to make slight adjustments to the plow attack angle, and for moving snow up big piles.

 

[adirondackmtnman]

I don't know anyone using the curl circuit to run an angle cylinder, but maybe someone on TBN does with a diverter valve? I believe most people use either a 3rd function remote or one of the rear remotes. When plowing I use the curl function to make slight adjustments to the plow attack angle, and for moving snow up big piles.

That was my thought exactly...

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[chuck172]

I do have rear remotes I can use, I honestly thought I have heard of others using the loader curl circuit. Maybe I'm just confused.

 

[mpham]

On mine I set the bucket to the angle I need then disconnect the lines and use them for the angle function. It works fine. Didn't need to move bucket at all last year after first set.

 

[Farmer495]

I'll state I don't think loader arms are meant for side angle stress. I'd get a decent snow bucket or pusher before I put an angle blade on a loader. Friend ran an angle blade for many years on a loader in place of bucket. Very careful operator, loader was bought new and never abused with low hours and only "personal" use plowing. he actually broke one of the loader pins clear of the mounts from the side strain.

 

[Deerherd]

I'll state I don't think loader arms are meant for side angle stress. I'd get a decent snow bucket or pusher before I put an angle blade on a loader. Friend ran an angle blade for many years on a loader in place of bucket. Very careful operator, loader was bought new and never abused with low hours and only "personal" use plowing. he actually broke one of the loader pins clear of the mounts from the side strain.

I have plowed for years with different plows and never damaged anything and have yet to see a loader that was damaged. Anybody who can come up with bonafide damage caused by snow plowing I would really like to see it. There have been various threads on TBN looking for just this thing. It's always "I knew somebody"' but never seems first hand.

On my last two set-ups, both were diverter valves on the curl function. There is no flopping around and you still have the use of the curl function. Both had trip protection and cross-over relief valves so chance of damage has been nil. This was my last set-up on my Kioti:



This is my current set-up on my LS.

 

[Fallon]

If you unplug the quick disconnects for a cylinder it stays put. That's actually the best test to see if you have a valve or cylinder problem. Unless the seals on your cylinder are shot, it won't move at all. The QDs seal shut & the fluid I'm the cylinders & hoses stop the cylinders from moving, the same as being hooked to a valve.

Unless you don't have quick disconnects on your hoses & have to undo the hoses with a wrench or something.

 

[chuck172]

So in my case, if I go with a ssqa plow setup, should I just use the loader curl circuit, or run new lines from my unused rear remote valve and leave the loader intact? Of course tapping into the loader would be much simpler and inexpensive.

 

[Fallon]

So in my case, if I go with a ssqa plow setup, should I just use the loader curl circuit, or run new lines from my unused rear remote valve and leave the loader intact? Of course tapping into the loader would be much simpler and inexpensive.

Both would work. Curl would be handy hitching & unhitching, but you can easily hook curl back up before or after that.