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idaho181

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Nezperce, Idaho
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Kubota L4600 HST, 1963 D-4 Dozer
L4600 Anyone have any experience in finding a 3pt sprayer for the L4600? I have need for one with a boom on either side along with a 30 ft hose for weed application. Spraying by air is getting too much. Yellow Star Thistle and Dog Fennel is a real prob for me this year.

Thanks
 
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agrispray in Dothan ala. has an assortment I have one with a spray nozzle and a wand they have a web site with products
 
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Thanks I will check them out. Side question.....how do you like your L4600? You can PM me on that if you like.
Mike
 
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FIMCO 3 Point Sprayers

I have a three point with booms and a hose set up. mine is electric but you can go PTO. It is ok. I found mine barely used and I did change out the nozzles to better ones. You can get a real education on nozzle quality. Cheap aint neccessarily the best and it's nickle dime in the end
 
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Have you found FIMCO to be a decent quality for long term? I think Big R handles that brand down in Lewiston. I was thinking PTO but had never had an electric set up. Any benefits to PTO? Where di you get your upgraded nozzles? We only have a St Johns or JD dealer in Nezperce. Thanks for this lead.




FIMCO 3 Point Sprayers

I have a three point with booms and a hose set up. mine is electric but you can go PTO. It is ok. I found mine barely used and I did change out the nozzles to better ones. You can get a real education on nozzle quality. Cheap aint neccessarily the best and it's nickle dime in the end
 
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hand wand application, i would most likely prefer an "on demand 12v sprayer pump" it has a little pressure switch built into the pump, so it only turns on when you use the hand wand.

PTO pumps, seem more of a hassle for spot spraying / hand wand. no easy way to turn pump off, while you have hose stretched out doing things.

you can setup a electrical sprayer, for some boom setups. but once you get up into the larger "wider booms" electrical sprayer pump may not be choice, more so if ya looking at doing field work or large yards or like. and that is were a PTO pump will more likely shin, IMHO.

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i would skip a 3pt option, and get a 3pt carry all, or a pull behind, over the years, it is nice to use truck, car, atv, etc... to spray vs hooking up to tractor.

as much as pull behind stuff annoys me, when it comes to backing them up. (wanting to jack knife on you very easily and quickly) it makes for a more universal setup that can be pulled by multi things, including riding lawn mowers. and with wheels already on it, it makes for easy unhooking, and finding a place for it in the shed.

for the smaller wheel barrow like tires, put some closed cell spray foam in the tires. and never worry about wheels going flat in the pull behind.

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skid/atv/utv/flat bottom, FEL, 3pt carray all. other words a flat bottom sprayer, some of them do come with some boom options.

picking up a 12v marine battery works good enough without needing to wire directly to a tractor / vehicle / atv. granted hooking directly to pulling unit will give you a longer usage. but *shrugs*

the better booms have a spring or break away option, (they bend backwards) if you hit boom with something. so the booms and what ever you hit don't get destroyed and all mangled up.

ability to adjust the booms UP and DOWN, and to swap out the nozzles for the boom sprayers is a must. so you can control the spray pattern and misting, and keep the chemicals from blowing away before they even get to what you want to spray. along with ability to adjust for different chemicals

i have a small "filter" between tank and pump, to protect the pump from stuff, and then each boom sprayer/mister, has a built in little filter, to help keep the boom sprayers from plugging up. it may seem like a hassle, but keeps me going longer, before i need to do maintenance and clean or replace all the little boom sprayer filters.

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cleaning the bloody tank out.. and having good drain spots is big issue with tanks. along with a "man hole" large hole were you can stick garden hose nozzle down and spray the inside down.
 
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Great information. I have 84 acres of pasture sloping ground to spray for herbicide and an additional 80 acres of wheat that's almost ready to harvest in the next few weeks in our area. This fall I need to spray the wheat ground with herbicide and fertilizer. It's costing me 8 .00 per acre just to have the chemicals sprayed by air. The problem is my wheat field adjoins my neighbors field of 200 acres of early peas so the aerial option of application is touchy. Thanks for you information......now to sort out all the options.

Appreciate all the responses very much.

Mike
 
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spraying by air plane for a field!!!, i thought you meant, a little 1/2 gallon to 2 gallon airless sprayer for spot spraying.. big difference!!!

i would ignore my post above. different things of what i was gearing above post to.
 
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PTO pump would more likely be a better choice, the overall weight of water/chemicals on a 3pt hitch can add up rather quickly. and cause your front tires to come up off the ground. and you might be better served with a pull behind unit (has its own tires) to offset the weight.

also not to mention the "sloshing" of water, when tank is not completely full. can rock ya back and forth, and forward and backwards.

figure out the max water/chemical in gallons you will need for field / pasture. using booms. might be a starting place. to see what type of tank size you are looking at. and then go from there....

the larger 80 plus gallon tanks, will more likely have an "agitation option" were pump runs water/chemicals back into tank to mix everything, and possibly a "spray bar" in upper portion of tank that can be used to help clean the tank out.

the larger tanks will most likely have a "clear see through" hose for a sight glass to see how much water/chemicals are in the tank.

there maybe an optional electrical package for a spot sprayer hand wand. that diverts water to hand wand when ever you pull the trigger on the hand wand.
other option might be turning valves to agitation setup, and then closing valve to agitation partially and opening valve to spray wand. so you get some pressure at the hand wand.

some spray rigs may have an optional gas engine water pump. vs a PTO pump or electrical pump. some spray rigs may come with a gas engine trash pump. for filling tank via a lake, but might discourage this, due to all the muck that could be sucked up and plug the filters up. or cause chemicals you want to use, to become less effective.

width of boom, amount of sprayers/misters (and type used for a given chemical) will give you some sort of MAX GPM and pressure you will need. to select a PTO pump for GPM / pressure.

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EDIT:
pending on chemical, you may need a permit and licenses to spray. and/or even a higher grade permit / licenses on some of the chemicals out there, that you will want to use.
 
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I believe your pretty much on.

That's the reason we are looking for a tractor set up to spray. We have had the costs of the aerial spraying along with the chemical cost and are looking to do it with the Kubota. I'm just a little guy here as my neighbor to the south farms 8000 acres while the neighbor to the north is doing 3200 acres. They have offered me their equipment many times but I have been building this place for more than 5 years and am trying to get it on as a Mom & Pop operation. We got the bare land, as I said a little over 5 years ago. The county average for wheat then was 66 bu per acre. We did 85.5 BPA this past fall. We just need to keep the cost inputs down. If I can find a way to spray with the Kubota it would help a lot. The wheat field is the easy one......it's the sloping pastures that's giving me fits.

Thanks Mike

Your info is good.






spraying by air plane for a field!!!, i thought you meant, a little 1/2 gallon to 2 gallon airless sprayer for spot spraying.. big difference!!!

i would ignore my post above. different things of what i was gearing above post to.
 
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i normally see dedicated field sprayers going down road, those little things cost a small fortune! tall pizza tires, 3 or 4 tires, fold out booms, tank, and what looks like a one seater air plane cock pit. renting / highering something like that out, might be better option for field spraying, so you are not running down all the crop. with tires. and getting a much wider boom setup. so less tire marks in the field.

pasture.... 12v electrical option say 20 to 60 gallon tank may still be better choice. with pasture you can make an extra trip or 2, to fill back up on water and chemicals, on fields, if ya run out mid way, and your at far end of the field... looks like more tire tracks in the field and more damage to crop....

i personally don't like long hoses, i prefer ability to have 10 to 15 foot hoses, that i can easily connect up, for hand wands. "to much hose, to many tangles" smaller extension hoses i can use a piece or two of wire to hold them together and toss over a hook and little bit of wire around the frame to keep the extension hoses from falling off. is easier on me. and when i do get a hose tangled up in some bushes, i have option of disconnecting some place. vs pull, pull, walk grab, walk grab, pull pull some more to get them out of a bush. cost some extra for fittings but life so much easier.

i gave up on any sort of "auto winder" for like garden hoses reels. and just coil up the hoses by hand.

having a switch beside pump or tank, were i can easily reach it, vs trying to deal with a battery alligator clips, and/or a plug. is safer and easier for me. hands end up being wet for some reason or another, and wanting to deal with extensions, or simply hooking up battery, and not wanting to create an un-needed spark.

electrical 12v presure pumps some of them get in the rather high pressure ratings, but for spot spraying and a few feet of booms on each side... you might be able to use regular garden hose, for hand wand extension. or go out and buy some sort of quick connector for hand wand extension hoses. getting hoses caught up on thorns, trees, etc.. and leaks are bound to happen. garden hoses for me, seem like a cheaper and easier alternative.
 
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How to Order a PBM Sprayer

Water Tanks, Rain Barrels, Septic Tanks, Chemical Tanks, Albany - JTI Supply (Albany Oregon)
I think for eighty plus acres you might want to have your set up spec'ed out. In the long run it might be much better IMHO than buying the least expensive feed store model. Their is a difference in tips some cost a buck and some cost four times that much. More than I can explain but there is a difference in mfg materials, plastic, brass, stainless, etc. I hope these two links might help you out. Probably with your acreage a PTO set up wold be best.
 
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I think that it's best I just continue with the aerial application as I won't have to store the booms, hoses, and other stuff associated with going to the next step. $8 per acre doesn't sound so bad when you figure in the cost of all the peripheral stuff I will be buying.
Thanks for all the input.....it's appreciated.



How to Order a PBM Sprayer

Water Tanks, Rain Barrels, Septic Tanks, Chemical Tanks, Albany - JTI Supply (Albany Oregon)
I think for eighty plus acres you might want to have your set up spec'ed out. In the long run it might be much better IMHO than buying the least expensive feed store model. Their is a difference in tips some cost a buck and some cost four times that much. More than I can explain but there is a difference in mfg materials, plastic, brass, stainless, etc. I hope these two links might help you out. Probably with your acreage a PTO set up wold be best.
 
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I know it is not winter but don't forget to rinse and DRAIN your pump. They will freeze and get damaged.
 
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I use RV antifreeze in mine.
I do the same thing. Once Im done putting down chemical, I rinse the tank and put in a few gallons of 50/50 antifreeze and run it thru the system to lube and protect the rollers, etc.
 
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10-4 on the RV antifreeze for the sprayer. I clean out the tank, dump a gallon in the tank and run it a bit so that it gets circulated, leave some in there and put the unit away until spring and it works for me so far. Next time I use it I put some water in, flush the system and then go ahead with the solution I am wanting use
 

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