Seat switch bypass

[DK35vince]

Took 18 posts. 17 more than I would have thought.

Took a little longer then I thought.
But I guessed who the poster would be correctly.

 

[motownbrowne]

I used a zip tie. Took about 15 seconds.

 

[aarolar]

I used a zip tie. Took about 15 seconds.

I just followed your lead.

 

[buickanddeere]

Do a search on this site on accidents. or google " safety bypass injury". Every single person was sure they could get away with what they did. Where are they now?

 

[motownbrowne]

Do a search on this site on accidents. or google " safety bypass injury". Every single person was sure they could get away with what they did. Where are they now?

I think we all understand your point. You make sense, but there's no point in trying to scare us. Anyone who disables their seat switch obviously has taken it upon themselves to bypass a safety feature and is responsible for the consequences.

Personally, I need to stand up often while using my pallet forks. Otherwise, I can't see the tips. I got tired of the tractor shutting off while I did this, so I bypassed it.

 

[ultrarunner]

A tractor shutting off is also a safety problem... especially on steep terrain... most know are Kubota brakes are secondary and we depend on the hydro which means shifting to neutral to restart.

 

[DK35vince]

I have never owned a tractor that even had a seat switch and never needed one..
No reason I suddenly need one now.

 

[buickanddeere]

How many people here have ever "cleaned up a mess" after an "accident" ? Dealt with family, friends and neighbours? Ever seen or smelled somebody that was torn up? For no good reason.

 

[farm boy00]

Honestly I don't have hilly grounds around here enough to worry about needing a switch. But also my tractors are so old there is no such thing as a safety switch.

Hey safety police wanna buy me a new tractor so I can be safe

 

[Ivan49]

I am not one for bypassing safety switches but that is one switch that is going to get it. That switch has been a royal pain in my a since they delivered my tractor last fall. I have been operating tractors since 1960 and this one is the first one with the seat switch.

 

[JWR]

I think we all understand your point. You make sense, but there's no point in trying to scare us. Anyone who disables their seat switch obviously has taken it upon themselves to bypass a safety feature and is responsible for the consequences.

Personally, I need to stand up often while using my pallet forks. Otherwise, I can't see the tips. I got tired of the tractor shutting off while I did this, so I bypassed it.

Amen. Agree 100%. Those "safety switches" were put there by teams of lawyers performing the 3 letter version of butt covering exercises. BuickandDeere has not cited a single case of an injury due to lack of a seat-based "safety" switch. I doubt there are any. No one exists who is more safety conscious than I am since I often operate on steep ground. Seat interlocks serve little purpose other than to irritate the owners.

 

[Oldpath05]

I used my tractor for about a year with that seat switch when I first got it, finally I had enough. At times, many times running the pto winch with the seat up, the log would fetch on something, shake the tractor at 1800 rpm, the seat come's down, tractor shuts off, get back on, disengage pto, start back up....I even use a bungee cord to hold the seat up for a while, but when logging, it's on and off, on and off......it got to be to much.

Fortunately Kubota design the L3400 with enough slack on the wire-ring harness under the seat to loop over that plastic toggle switch, easy fix. So now when the tractor tips over, all I have to do is reach under the seat and move the that wire harness off the switch, jump to safety and the tractor will shut off. Might be a good reason to make a better mouse trap.

 

[buickanddeere]

Amen. Agree 100%. Those "safety switches" were put there by teams of lawyers performing the 3 letter version of butt covering exercises. BuickandDeere has not cited a single case of an injury due to lack of a seat-based "safety" switch. I doubt there are any. No one exists who is more safety conscious than I am since I often operate on steep ground. Seat interlocks serve little purpose other than to irritate the owners.

Wow !!! The "do you still beat your wife " defense .

 

[motownbrowne]

Wow !!! The "do you still beat your wife " defense .

What on earth are you talking about?!

Dude, you've made your point. Good 'nuff, don't ya think?

Let it drop.

 

[buickanddeere]

What on earth are you talking about?!

Dude, you've made your point. Good 'nuff, don't ya think?

Let it drop.

Show us a case where there the absence of a working seat switch saved lives and prevented injury.

 

[farm boy00]

Show us a case where there the absence of a working seat switch saved lives and prevented injury.

Show us a case where it saved lives also

 

[motownbrowne]

Show us a case where there the absence of a working seat switch saved lives and prevented injury.

Okay, never mind. You're right, I was wrong. By all means continue spreading the word about the good job seat switches do. Keep it up. I think you're really getting somewhere here.:thumbsup:

 

[motownbrowne]

Oh yeah, and definitely keep bringing up wife beating. Everybody loves that combination of words.:thumbdown:

 

[Howling]

My full time business is industrial automation (factory floor machines) design, build and support. Over the last 30 years I have seen the importance of safety, interlocks and guards grow. There are 3 factors that drive this: incompetency and impatience and idiots.

When you find safeties on equipment, like seat switches and ROPS, it is because people have applied those 3 factors to previous generations of the equipment. Is getting the task done a little faster or easier really worth your arm, eye, head, life?

Power equipment can be unforgiving on soft and easily mangled human flesh. Seen too many people that claim to know better than the machine or quick enough to grab that part without getting hurt. Experience tells you it luck and odds and those run out at some point. Just go browse YouTube.

When asked about interlocks and guards I will explain about reasons they are there and that we all need to go home at end of day with ability to count to 10. In non-mixed company the number goes up to 21.

When you defeat or disable safeties on equipment ask which of the 3 factors is your driving force? Then look at the underlying issue and what solutions are available.

 

[4570Man]

The only way the seat safety saves lives is if it is such a PITA you leave the tractor in the barn. I had almost forgotten how annoying they are until I used a buddies tractor. This tractor has a pretty crude safety which is a lever depressed by the seat. Putting a work glove under the seat effectively bypassed it.