Rounded off drain plug

[sixdogs]

A shop or even a plumber could break that loose while you watched and take the worry out of a first time encounter. That's what I did many years ago and that's how I learned what to do and how to do it. Also learned what not to do.

 

[goeduck]

700 posts, here we come.

800 posts, here we come.

 

[Jstpssng]

I got bombarded with 'do it yourself' when I suggested running it to a shop. The option is in mind.

I knew that was your original plan, and have been wondering why you changed your mind.
Now you need to wait until we get another 295 posts in the thread.

 

[09112]

At this point, with a skilled welder, surely the most straightforward solution.

With a 110v wire feed, costing about $100 bucks, the job could be done in just a couple of minutes and no expertise needed to fill a hole with hot metal. The good thing about it is you still have the welder that has paid for itself with the first job.

 

[LD1]

With a 110v wire feed, costing about $100 bucks, the job could be done in just a couple of minutes and no expertise needed to fill a hole with hot metal. The good thing about it is you still have the welder that has paid for itself with the first job.

It takes more skill than you think.

Its not simply filling a hole with hot metal. You actually have to penetrate the plug. Its obvious its in tight.

I have welded to remove broken bolts and studs before with similar method of welding a nut on. 240v welder, I know what I am doing, and an in-position weld. And even then sometimes it takes more than one attempt as the weld breaks off the bolt/stud.

So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

 

[Big Barn]

It takes more skill than you think.



So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

I know LD1 isn’t being negative. I agree with him.

 

[LD1]

I know LD1 isn’t being negative. I agree with him.

Yep....Not at all trying to be negative. Just honest.

And not at all trying to bash on 110v welders either.

But IMO way to many times people are always quick to suggest someone to go buy a cheap welder and its an easy repair or whatever. Its not, especially if you have never welded. And especially with a 110v flux machine.

No matter what the repair may be....cheap 110v flux welder + inexperienced operator dont yield good results often.

If you want to learn to weld, or see if welding is for you, no harm in getting a $100 flux machine and playing with some scraps. If you like it, and think welding is for you....keep at it and soon you will be yearning for more. But if you dont like it, cant get the hang of it, fine too, you are only out $100.

The multiple mentions in these 700+ posts about just getting a welder and how easy it is....Nope. This would exactly be easy for an experienced welder. And this would be extremely difficult for a beginner

 

[jaxs]

With a 110v wire feed, costing about $100 bucks, the job could be done in just a couple of minutes and no expertise needed to fill a hole with hot metal. The good thing about it is you still have the welder that has paid for itself with the first job.

It takes more skill than you think.
Its not simply filling a hole with hot metal. You actually have to penetrate the plug.
So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

I have a 220 volt Lincoln wire welder that I tinker around with and would turn this over to someone with more experience due to overhead position. I'll not go back to all the suggestions with little chance of succeeding but will talk about one that is downright insane. Removing with cutting torch. The outcome would be catastrophic. The instant plug is penetrated,there will be an explosion that burn's operator to death and sustained fire that destroys tractor along with anything nearby. I'm ashamed I didn't point this out earlier but better late than never. Oil mixed with oxygen can combust without source of ignition. Contemplate what happens if the combination is brought in contact with cutting flame. We can only hope others are wise as Kando and don't give it a try.

 

[radios1]

this can be used if you're careful. High Speed Metal Saw I've used a sawzall to remove stuck plugs before, he'd have to remove that bar, and pump out as much oil as possible, drill a hole big enough for the blade to fit, then make 4 cuts into the plug, then you can use a punch and hammer to make the pieces move to the center, one at a time, and remove them.. you just have to be careful you don't cut deep enough that you cut into the threads.. this saw has a small blade, so you don't have to drill a large hole..

 

[4570Man]

I have a 220 volt Lincoln wire welder that I tinker around with and would turn this over to someone with more experience due to overhead position. I'll not go back to all the suggestions with little chance of succeeding but will talk about one that is downright insane. Removing with cutting torch. The outcome would be catastrophic. The instant plug is penetrated,there will be an explosion that burn's operator to death and sustained fire that destroys tractor along with anything nearby. I'm ashamed I didn't point this out earlier but better late than never. Oil mixed with oxygen can combust without source of ignition. Contemplate what happens if the combination is brought in contact with cutting flame. We can only hope others are wise as Kando and don't give it a try.

I was at least one person that offered that suggestion and it was a joke. Sorry if it wasn’t interpreted that way.

 

[goeduck]

Removing with cutting torch. The outcome would be catastrophic. The instant plug is penetrated,there will be an explosion that burn's operator to death and sustained fire that destroys tractor along with anything nearby. I'm ashamed I didn't point this out earlier but better late than never. Oil mixed with oxygen can combust without source of ignition. Contemplate what happens if the combination is brought in contact with cutting flame.

YIKES :fire::fire::tractor::fire::fire:

 

[09112]

It takes more skill than you think.

Its not simply filling a hole with hot metal. You actually have to penetrate the plug. Its obvious its in tight.

I have welded to remove broken bolts and studs before with similar method of welding a nut on. 240v welder, I know what I am doing, and an in-position weld. And even then sometimes it takes more than one attempt as the weld breaks off the bolt/stud.

So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

What I said. Stickin' to it.

 

[LD1]

What I said. Stickin' to it.

"Fill an overhead hole with hot metal, with a $100 - 110v wire feed, with no expertise, in just a couple of minutes, and will get the job done"

Stick to whatever you want....dont mean its right.

"can" it be done as you describe (no experience and all).....yea, maybe, but the odds of it actually getting the job done.....pretty slim. Maybe Kando would be the one in a million??

 

[Diggin It]

I'd be concerned about things like heat and sparks around oil.

 

[D2Cat]

It takes more skill than you think.

Its not simply filling a hole with hot metal. You actually have to penetrate the plug. Its obvious its in tight.

I have welded to remove broken bolts and studs before with similar method of welding a nut on. 240v welder, I know what I am doing, and an in-position weld. And even then sometimes it takes more than one attempt as the weld breaks off the bolt/stud.

So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

There is no problem welding the plug with a 110V machine. ( I have a 110v machine with 160 amp, argon CO2 that will wild that easily). And laying one one's back welding overhead is not a problem especially with a MIG ...all providing the first part of your sentence is remedied. The inexperienced welder negates to other two thoughts! That's why I suggested "if he knows someone who has ..." He indicated early on he did not weld.

 

[fried1765]

It takes more skill than you think.

Its not simply filling a hole with hot metal. You actually have to penetrate the plug. Its obvious its in tight.

I have welded to remove broken bolts and studs before with similar method of welding a nut on. 240v welder, I know what I am doing, and an in-position weld. And even then sometimes it takes more than one attempt as the weld breaks off the bolt/stud.

So an inexperienced welder + 110v machine + laying on your back welding overhead......I give it little success of working

DITTO !!!

 

[tjkubota93]

You could have ordered one of these from amazon for $15, removed the plug with it 1 time AND used it for its intended purpose (pictured) at least 6 times by now.

 

[Kando]

You could have ordered one of these from amazon for $15, removed the plug with it 1 time AND used it for its intended purpose (pictured) at least 6 times by now.View attachment 579936View attachment 579937

I actually found a 6" ridgid in my toolbox that I don't remember buying. Ordered an 8" one that was delivered today. With time off work for the holiday I'll work on getting a flat spot on each side of the plug to stick the pipe wrench on.

 

[tjkubota93]

I actually found a 6" ridgid in my toolbox that I don't remember buying. Ordered an 8" one that was delivered today. With time off work for the holiday I'll work on getting a flat spot on each side of the plug to stick the pipe wrench on.

Cool.

I would try getting a good grip without removing any material. You can always remove more, it will be exceedingly difficult to replace any that didn't need removing.

Find a good size pipe or conduit to give you some leverage. Be sure to have room to turn it while it does it's grippy thing. I would grab as high up against the pan as possible.

Maybe watch some yoo toob and try it out somewhere easy to get at just to know what to expect?

The teeth, especially new, will grip the **** out of and scar up anything. It's either gonna come on out or snap off (very extremely highly doubtful it snaps).

And don't get nervous or worry that will mess you up. Worst case, you gotta take it somewhere and pay $100 to get it welded on or drilled out.

It could be worse and your wife could mad at you.

 

[goeduck]

I actually found a 6" ridgid in my toolbox that I don't remember buying. Ordered an 8" one that was delivered today. With time off work for the holiday I'll work on getting a flat spot on each side of the plug to stick the pipe wrench on.

Do not hurry on our account, we need threads like this to disagree over. :thumbsup:

Seriously, git-er-done :cool2: