Oil & Fuel Regular oil or synthetic

/ Regular oil or synthetic #41  
Let me begin by expressing my appreciation to you all for your input. I grew up in the country, but about the time I should have been learning such things, we moved into town.

I try to combine a "by the book" mindset with common sense i.e. on our vehicles I change oil and filter usually within 1,000 miles of the recommended 3,000, whereas my wife would watch the odometer and even drive around the block several times to roll into the bay at exactly 3,000 miles. Well, maybe I exaggerate a little.

When it comes to my tractor, I am very much like my wife and try to get it done very close to the 100 hour mark if not sooner, especially if I have been in dirty, dusty conditions. It's just that $180 seems a little high for all fluids and filters for a change out. Or not.... Is that in the ballpark?

What all are you getting for the $180?

I paid right at $400 the last time I picked up stuff for one of my tractors.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #42  
What all are you getting for the $180?

I paid right at $400 the last time I picked up stuff for one of my tractors.

Keep in mind that it was a B7510; very small machine. I got:

3 quarts of oil, 4 gallons of hydraulic oil, oil filter, fuel filter, 2 hydraulic oil filters and air filter. For a total of $179.82. That was back in March of last year.

A few days ago, they quoted my cousin something over $300 for everything for the 50 hour maintenance for his B3200.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #43  
Keep in mind that it was a B7510; very small machine. I got:

3 quarts of oil, 4 gallons of hydraulic oil, oil filter, fuel filter, 2 hydraulic oil filters and air filter. For a total of $179.82. That was back in March of last year.

A few days ago, they quoted my cousin something over $300 for everything for the 50 hour maintenance for his B3200.

That doesn't really sound too bad for what you got. As mentioned by some others, you can cross reference some of the filters and I have used different brands of oil, but the cost savings were not all that much as I still used a high quality oil. I have also used other than Kubota hydraulic oil though I have gone back to Kubota right now. I do have some Ambra left over that I may put in my 2660 though.

I have to put 15 gallons of fluid in our M8540 and a little over ten in our L5030, so that bill gets a bit steep and just one filter costs $70.:eek:
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #44  
Wow! I'll stop complaining now. I'll just bite the bullet and do it.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #45  
It is available in Canada at Canadian Tire. I guess with the extreme temps here we have a wider range of viscosities available to us.:confused2:
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #46  
I use the T6 5W-40 from WM in everthing that I change too. Where you find the 0 and 10 stuff?
Here in Canada it is available at Canadian Tire and if I remember correctly at the local TSC as well. :confused2:
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #47  
To the contrary regardless of your sly comment ;-) I would trust John Deere they have been manufacturing equipment for decades and probably have one of the largest in-house research and diagnostic labs of any corporation building tractors today I know my cousin works for JD take care

PS I'd love to play some more but I have to take care of the 9 inches of snow we've just received this morning have a nice one
OK, go play (work) in the snow and then come back and play with us guys with the Orange Tractors.:)
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #48  
I couldn't find my last bill so I called my Bulk oil dealer and got the price of a 45 gallon barrel of 0-40 oil. the quoted price was $1238.20. Now on my bx2350 at three quarts I can get about 58 oil changes, which comes out to around $22.00 a change plus 8 bucks for a filter, thirty bucks in total. I think that it's not too bad a deal.

Personally I don't know of a single farmer in these parts that doesn't buy oil and filters in bulk. Maybe it's just a rural Manitoba thing but it makes dollar sense to me. Besides it's kinda nice to always have it on hand on those rainy days when yuh got nothing better to do and decide to check the hours on the tractor.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #49  
While OEM has more mark up in nearly 100% of the time it should be good quality stuff and helps keep the local dealer open so when you need something no 3rd party has you have a parts source is one view on the subject. After they get 20-30 years old it may be a mute point.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #50  
Okay I'm back what's going on now :) all kidding aside don't feel bad some of my filters are over $100 each. JohnThomas check out my new video, I was having fun snow blowing this reminds me when I was a kid 40 years ago what the weather was like in upstate New York the only tough part was cleaning off the roofs my shoulders are killing me take care


PS is it all right if I stay on these forms I drive my brothers Kubota once in a while so I have a little orange in me :)
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #51  
Okay I'm back what's going on now :) all kidding aside don't feel bad some of my filters are over $100 each. JohnThomas check out my new video, I was having fun snow blowing this reminds me when I was a kid 40 years ago what the weather was like in upstate New York the only tough part was cleaning off the roofs my shoulders are killing me take care


PS is it all right if I stay on these forms I drive my brothers Kubota once in a while so I have a little orange in me :)

Everyone is welcome here no matter what they drive. I have red, orange, green and gray tractors. I am not dead yet, so who knows what I may wind up with next. There is even a blue tractor on Craigslist, I had to talk myself out of buying.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic
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#52  
Okay I'm back what's going on now :) all kidding aside don't feel bad some of my filters are over $100 each. JohnThomas check out my new video, I was having fun snow blowing this reminds me when I was a kid 40 years ago what the weather was like in upstate New York the only tough part was cleaning off the roofs my shoulders are killing me take care


PS is it all right if I stay on these forms I drive my brothers Kubota once in a while so I have a little orange in me :)

Hey Radium where are you in NY? I'm in Rockland county. I see you have a 3PH snowblower. How do you like it? I was thinking about getting one myself, just worried about the obvious problem of always having to look back. Do you have a rear mounted camera system? I have a Kubota B26 and don't have the option of getting a front mounted blower or I would. If it wasn't for the fact that it's a 2010 with only 30 hrs on it, I would consider trading it in for a B3030 and be done with it, but I'm sure I would get hit hard on the trade in. Anyway I am looking for some positive reasurance with the rear mounted blower. Do you have any? BE HONEST! Thanks and nice video.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #53  
Thanks for the comment I should've recorded in the morning with the first pass. I can give you an honest answer after owning both front and rear snowblowers my dealer loves me :), I had a front mount snow blower on my TC 40 DA for about four years loved it hydrostatic transmission. Unfortunately the tractor just wasn't big enough and I really wanted a cab. So I said goodbye to my front snowblower and traded up to a bigger tractor with no mid-PTO my dealer insisted that I would love a rear snowblower, Other options included an inverted snowblower which lets just say after watching my neighbor I'll never buy one ;-) and of course Erskine front mounting system quite expensive. The simple truth no it's not easier than driving forward I have a camera and my LCD screen is mounted to my visor, however you naturally always want to turn around I even have two large mirrors on the side of the cab and I still want to turn around and look. My biggest fear is one of the neighbor kids playing around behind me or even someone's dog that openings is almost 4 foot tall by 7 foot wide gives me nightmares. like anything you will get used to it and there are times where it is beneficial like clearing the end of the road no dealing with traffic and if you have drifts you can always lift it higher. One other important thing make sure you have enough gear selections to move slow enough in reverse I have 12 forward and 12 reverse gears so I can always find the right speed. The choice is yours I sacrificed the front blower for a larger frame tractor with cab and I'm more than satisfied when it's 15 Fahrenheit and the wind is blowing take care
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #54  
This is my first Kubota and also my first diesel engine. I read a few older threads about synthetic oils voiding Kubota warranties. I highly doubt that is still true today, but I would like to get some of your opinions along with my dealers before making a decision. Also, if I did use synthetic, would I extend the time between oil changes? What to do, and when to do it?

Thanks

It does not void your warranty, currently from their web site it says.

"Kubota recommends oil with an API rating of CF or higher. If the synthetic oil meets those standards, it can be used in Kubota engines."
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #55  
I know I will be changing over to Amsoil as soon as my warranty expires. It might be a little more expensive but I do trust their product more than others.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #56  
I know I will be changing over to Amsoil as soon as my warranty expires. It might be a little more expensive but I do trust their product more than others.

Why wait until warranty expires?
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #57  
It does not void your warranty, currently from their web site it says.

"Kubota recommends oil with an API rating of CF or higher. If the synthetic oil meets those standards, it can be used in Kubota engines."

This goes back to the old recommends does not mean mandates. But I agree, why wait. I used Amsoil from hours 0001 on my BX24. Same with all my auto engines, high pressure washer etc.

So the rings might take a little while longer to seat. UOA show they are mint. YMMV
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #58  
This goes back to the old recommends does not mean mandates. But I agree, why wait. I used Amsoil from hours 0001 on my BX24. Same with all my auto engines, high pressure washer etc.

So the rings might take a little while longer to seat. UOA show they are mint. YMMV

The only thing I would do is let factory oil run it's course. JUST IN CASE a specific weight, type or additive is used at the factory intended for the purposes of break in. It certainly won't hurt to let it run it's course and could be really important.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #59  
Why wait until warranty expires?

I don't want any flack from them just in case something does happen. It's one of those goofy things that I think. I will change over to Wix filters as long as they have them for my tractor.
 
/ Regular oil or synthetic #60  
My decision to purchase a Kubota tractor was based on the reliability of the Kubota 2 cyl motor that is in my Carrier APU (an APU is an auxilary power unit, it gives me power, air conditioning and heat when the truck is not running to avoid idleing). I am a long haul trucker and have 6971 hours on this APU using 5w40 synthetic oil no matter the brand as long as it is on sale and diesel motor rated.

I also use synthetic oils in all my small motors such as ATV, lawnmower, generator, snowblower, anything that doesnt use too much oil like my truck that takes 44 quarts and have never had an oil related problem.

I do use synthetic blend in my 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 260k on the odometer and not one problem, and using full synthetic in the wifes Chrysler 300C.

P.S. I also use Slick 50 and wonder if that contributes to longevity since my last Jeep had 350k on the odometer when a retired guy bought it and was driving it back and fourth from Northern Michigan to Florida till he hit a deer and totaled it, but was still running great. Dont know what the mileage was at that time.
 
 
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