Red Dyed Diesel

[ultrarunner]

Just be sure to never put any of the red dyed diesel into an on-road truck or vehicle. No harm to the vehicle or engine, but if DOT or DMV decides to stop you and check the fuel, the red color tells them you are using untaxed fuel in a highway vehicle.
Even a gallon of red fuel will continue to color several tank refills.

I’ve wondered about this because in the aftermath of Katrina the ban was temporarily lifted and it was legal but how does one explain a red tank long after the state of emergency has past?

 

[CoyPatton]

Only thing I will add is make sure you get the off road fuel from a source that has a good turn over. My neighbor got after me for using on road fuel and paying the tax and told me to get the off road at the local co-op. Well I tried it and ended up getting a nice case of the diesel slime sometimes called algae in my tractor fuel tank and storage cans. Took a lot of effort to get rid of it so now I again buy the on road at the local truck stop, for the amount of diesel I use the few cents of tax saving is not worth the aggravation of dealing with the contaminated fuel.

Just saying be sure of the fuel you purchase, sometimes saving a few cents ain't worth it.

It is interesting that you say a few cents more per gallon. I have moved to an area that the little bit I use I can not buy, the suppliers sell by bulk only in my current area. Prior to moving road fuel (taxed) was frequently cheaper at the couple of stations that had off road (untaxed) diesel. Their explanation was they sold so little that the price reflected what it cost when the tank was filled. So after that explanation from the 2 stations, I no longer bought untaxed diesel as I inferred it sat for longer periods. So while often cheaper, it no longer mattered as I wanted fresher fuel.

 

[MT Kioti]

Permit - are you serious?

I just pull up to off road Diesel pump at a local station and fill up my drum, or portable tank.

And I thought Texas was one of those "freedom" states. Must be all smoke and mirrors.

 

[grsthegreat]

You have to apply for a Texas Dyed Fuel End User Registration Number. You cannot purchase dyed fuel unless you give the number to the place you buy the fuel. They have to keep track and report to the state who buys dyed fuel and how much. I buy several hundreds of gallons of fuel every year for my tractors, mower, and UTV. It wasn't worth the hassle for me, plus I don't need the state in my business any more than absolutely is necessary.



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Glad we dont have to do this in idaho.

 

[4570Man]

My local 'fuel dealer' recently upgraded all his pumps(gas, diesel, ORD, kero) to accept 24/7 access, a super event in a rural farm community.
I have been using ORD since I got my B7300 in 2002. All I had to do at the fuel dealer was fill out a form stating what equipment I was fueling. Here in VT, road safety stops check to make sure ORD is not being used illegally.

The local station here does that as well but they don’t accept regular credit cards. You have to fill out a bunch of paperwork, get their approval to get their keycard and then pay the balance every month.

 

[4570Man]

I’ve wondered about this because in the aftermath of Katrina the ban was temporarily lifted and it was legal but how does one explain a red tank long after the state of emergency has past?

It doesn’t take that long to clean out. I run both fuels in my equipment and the water separator is clear after just a couple tanks of regular diesel.

 

[GreenwoodVA]

I'm confused about the permit you reference. I've never heard of that being a thing and I didn't find anything online about Texas having an off road diesel permit. Anybody from Texas know what he means?

Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-

For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulphur fuels.

 

[4570Man]

For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulphur fuels.

All diesel sold since 2014 has been required to be ultra low sulfur. And if it wasn’t don’t you think the millions of construction machines sold that were designed to burn ULSD would be having problems?

 

[WM75Guy]

For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulfur fuels.

You would be hard pressed to find diesel that is not ULSD at a retail pump, regardless of the signage. It isn't kept at most terminals where the tankers for retail use are loaded. Some older large marine engines and railroad locomotives that cannot use ULSD are allowed to use >15 ppm sulfur fuel but they are being phased out.

 

[BlueKnife]

You have to apply for a Texas Dyed Fuel End User Registration Number. You cannot purchase dyed fuel unless you give the number to the place you buy the fuel. They have to keep track and report to the state who buys dyed fuel and how much. I buy several hundreds of gallons of fuel every year for my tractors, mower, and UTV. It wasn't worth the hassle for me, plus I don't need the state in my business any more than absolutely is necessary.



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Huh. Interesting. I would find that annoying.