Red Dyed Diesel

   / Red Dyed Diesel #61  
Just be sure to never put any of the red dyed diesel into an on-road truck or vehicle. No harm to the vehicle or engine, but if DOT or DMV decides to stop you and check the fuel, the red color tells them you are using untaxed fuel in a highway vehicle.
Even a gallon of red fuel will continue to color several tank refills.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #62  
Grew up putting coal oil on boo boos. Kept cuts from getting sore and infected. Most likely was kerosene but everyone called it coal oil.
When I was in grade school a bud got a puppy that was being scheduled to have its tail docked at the vet's. His Grandad thought it was an unnecessary expense because when he was a kid they just chopped the tail off and tied a coal oil rag on the stub.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #63  
Illinois get your for $.17 for sales tax. $.558 for motor fuel tax and then the federal rate of $.244

So 97.2 cent/gallon
Indiana is $0.834 total for Diesel..

Gas is going to be $0.724 starting Oct 1st.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #64  
Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-
I'm confused about the permit you reference. I've never heard of that being a thing and I didn't find anything online about Texas having an off road diesel permit. Anybody from Texas know what he means?
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #65  
Had to stop using blue because Sunoco already was adding blue to their 240 & 260 blends of gasoline. Thus to keep you from putting aircraft strength gas into a diesel tank.
I remember Sunoco gas being blue back in the 60s/early 70s, but any that I've gotten in the last 50 years or so is just like everyone else's gasoline.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #66  
There are several taxes involved in fuel. One is MFT, motor fuel tax. It’s one of the few taxes that mostly gets used for its intended purpose, fixing roads. If you but red diesel no MFT tax. There is also sales tax. The same tax as if you buy something at Walmart. This tax rate varies by state and some local governments have a higher rate. In Illinois farmers don’t have to pay sales tax on farm items. I’m not sure what it takes to get this exemption but you might need some kind of paper work or “permit”.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #67  
Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-
I've been using red dyed diesel fuel in my tractors ever since it was introduced with no ill affects
It is same as regular diesel-just has dye added to prevent folks like us avoiding road use taxes on fuel in on-hwy vehicles. I am STUNNED Texas (or any state?) would make you get a permit/approval to buy dyed diesel. I go to our farm co-ops and use the dyed diesel pump....gov't overreach!
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #68  
Sometimes it happens when the only place that sells red works bankers hours.
My local 'fuel dealer' recently upgraded all his pumps(gas, diesel, ORD, kero) to accept 24/7 access, a super event in a rural farm community.
I have been using ORD since I got my B7300 in 2002. All I had to do at the fuel dealer was fill out a form stating what equipment I was fueling. Here in VT, road safety stops check to make sure ORD is not being used illegally.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #69  
I'm confused about the permit you reference. I've never heard of that being a thing and I didn't find anything online about Texas having an off road diesel permit. Anybody from Texas know what he means?
You have to apply for a Texas Dyed Fuel End User Registration Number. You cannot purchase dyed fuel unless you give the number to the place you buy the fuel. They have to keep track and report to the state who buys dyed fuel and how much. I buy several hundreds of gallons of fuel every year for my tractors, mower, and UTV. It wasn't worth the hassle for me, plus I don't need the state in my business any more than absolutely is necessary.



1758548143577.png
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #70  
Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-
I have been running a 1999 NH on red diesel since I bought it...no issue whatsoever.
Since 2014 in the US, off-road (red-dyed) diesel has the same composition than the taxed diesel except for about 1% red colorant added to the off-road/tax exempt version.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #71  
Just be sure to never put any of the red dyed diesel into an on-road truck or vehicle. No harm to the vehicle or engine, but if DOT or DMV decides to stop you and check the fuel, the red color tells them you are using untaxed fuel in a highway vehicle.
Even a gallon of red fuel will continue to color several tank refills.
I’ve wondered about this because in the aftermath of Katrina the ban was temporarily lifted and it was legal but how does one explain a red tank long after the state of emergency has past?
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #72  
Only thing I will add is make sure you get the off road fuel from a source that has a good turn over. My neighbor got after me for using on road fuel and paying the tax and told me to get the off road at the local co-op. Well I tried it and ended up getting a nice case of the diesel slime sometimes called algae in my tractor fuel tank and storage cans. Took a lot of effort to get rid of it so now I again buy the on road at the local truck stop, for the amount of diesel I use the few cents of tax saving is not worth the aggravation of dealing with the contaminated fuel.

Just saying be sure of the fuel you purchase, sometimes saving a few cents ain't worth it.
It is interesting that you say a few cents more per gallon. I have moved to an area that the little bit I use I can not buy, the suppliers sell by bulk only in my current area. Prior to moving road fuel (taxed) was frequently cheaper at the couple of stations that had off road (untaxed) diesel. Their explanation was they sold so little that the price reflected what it cost when the tank was filled. So after that explanation from the 2 stations, I no longer bought untaxed diesel as I inferred it sat for longer periods. So while often cheaper, it no longer mattered as I wanted fresher fuel.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #74  
You have to apply for a Texas Dyed Fuel End User Registration Number. You cannot purchase dyed fuel unless you give the number to the place you buy the fuel. They have to keep track and report to the state who buys dyed fuel and how much. I buy several hundreds of gallons of fuel every year for my tractors, mower, and UTV. It wasn't worth the hassle for me, plus I don't need the state in my business any more than absolutely is necessary.



View attachment 4114980
Glad we dont have to do this in idaho.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #75  
My local 'fuel dealer' recently upgraded all his pumps(gas, diesel, ORD, kero) to accept 24/7 access, a super event in a rural farm community.
I have been using ORD since I got my B7300 in 2002. All I had to do at the fuel dealer was fill out a form stating what equipment I was fueling. Here in VT, road safety stops check to make sure ORD is not being used illegally.

The local station here does that as well but they don’t accept regular credit cards. You have to fill out a bunch of paperwork, get their approval to get their keycard and then pay the balance every month.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #76  
I’ve wondered about this because in the aftermath of Katrina the ban was temporarily lifted and it was legal but how does one explain a red tank long after the state of emergency has past?

It doesn’t take that long to clean out. I run both fuels in my equipment and the water separator is clear after just a couple tanks of regular diesel.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #77  
I'm confused about the permit you reference. I've never heard of that being a thing and I didn't find anything online about Texas having an off road diesel permit. Anybody from Texas know what he means?

Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-


For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulphur fuels.
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #78  
For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulphur fuels.

All diesel sold since 2014 has been required to be ultra low sulfur. And if it wasn’t don’t you think the millions of construction machines sold that were designed to burn ULSD would be having problems?
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #79  
For those who say "There is no difference" I would like to know why one says 'Low Sulphur' and the other does not? The mechanic/engine builder I was using once told me that using the newer on road was bad for valvetrains in older model diesels & "All you have to do is crack one open to see what I am talking about". The difference here in VA is .50/gallon or more. The main reason I use it is because the older machine I use was not built for the lower sulfur fuels.
You would be hard pressed to find diesel that is not ULSD at a retail pump, regardless of the signage. It isn't kept at most terminals where the tankers for retail use are loaded. Some older large marine engines and railroad locomotives that cannot use ULSD are allowed to use >15 ppm sulfur fuel but they are being phased out.

1758559556672.png
 
   / Red Dyed Diesel #80  
You have to apply for a Texas Dyed Fuel End User Registration Number. You cannot purchase dyed fuel unless you give the number to the place you buy the fuel. They have to keep track and report to the state who buys dyed fuel and how much. I buy several hundreds of gallons of fuel every year for my tractors, mower, and UTV. It wasn't worth the hassle for me, plus I don't need the state in my business any more than absolutely is necessary.



View attachment 4114980
Huh. Interesting. I would find that annoying.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

Adams Tilt Trailer (A56438)
Adams Tilt Trailer...
Volvo ECR235CL (A53317)
Volvo ECR235CL...
RAKE ATTACHMENT FOR MINI EXCAVATOR (A58214)
RAKE ATTACHMENT...
2002 TOYOTA 7FDKU40 FORKLIFT (A57880)
2002 TOYOTA...
2023 Ford Expedition SUV (A59231)
2023 Ford...
iDrive TDS-2010H ProJack M2 Electric Trailer Dolly (A59228)
iDrive TDS-2010H...
 
Top