Red Dyed Diesel

/ Red Dyed Diesel #1  

ignitzme

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Fredericksburg,Texas
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Branson 2515H
Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #2  
It’s exactly the same fuel as the road fuel with the exception of red dye added. Do you think construction companies would be using it in millions of dollars of machines if it was tearing stuff up?
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #3  
I've been running off road diesel in my 3 kubota's for years with no ill effects. Modern home heating oil is just ultra low sulfer #2 diesel with the red dye. I just had my guy fill up 2 drums with it that I'll use for tractors.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #6  
Hello,
I would like to know if Red dyed diesel will cause any engine or fuel line troubles. I purchased the 2023 Branson 2515H new and have been using clear On road(taxable) diesel from the start. I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. I have been running the clear On road diesel since the purchase in 2023. I was told by the supplier that it wouldn't harm anything but just wanted to post and see anyone's opinion on this. Thank you. Jim
Over 500 hours and running great-

Really? I mean farmers, excavators, loggers, etc. run red dyed fuel 24/7/365 all over the country for decades.
Do you think we want 1/2 million-5 million dollar machinery with engines being ruined?

Just be sure you buy it from someone who sells a lot of fuel.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #8  
I've also been using red fuel in my tractors since 1994 when they first started dyeing it. No issues with any of my tractors.

However, I would check with your fuel oil supplier to make sure what they deliver is ULS (ultra low sulfur). this is recommended in most newer diesel tractors. ULS home heating oil has been required here since 2018 but the laws vary by state.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #9  
Just curious, I know nothing about Texas law but I can't imagine having to get some sort of approval to run untaxed, offroad, red dyed, farm fuel(pick your adjective) in a tractor. I can tell you that's not the case in SC. You have been paying state tax on fuel since 2023 that you didn't need to be paying.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #11  
Only thing I will add is make sure you get the off road fuel from a source that has a good turn over. My neighbor got after me for using on road fuel and paying the tax and told me to get the off road at the local co-op. Well I tried it and ended up getting a nice case of the diesel slime sometimes called algae in my tractor fuel tank and storage cans. Took a lot of effort to get rid of it so now I again buy the on road at the local truck stop, for the amount of diesel I use the few cents of tax saving is not worth the aggravation of dealing with the contaminated fuel.

Just saying be sure of the fuel you purchase, sometimes saving a few cents ain't worth it.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #12  
We agree with everything posted above, same fuel with different identifier dyes, except our experience with tractors coming in with fuel problems shows the following:

1. In northern climates, fuel station diesel has anti-gel treatments added sometime round late September. You may purchase off road diesel that has not yet been treated. You can/should also treat with anti-gel additives. We froze 3 different samples, the Power Service "White Bottle" using the "below 0 degrees" formula worked best.
2. Many arguments about shelf life of Diesel Fuel. Our experience is about 3 Months. Not that the combustion properties of diesel brakes down in 3 months, but because of the organics in diesel. Any moisture or condensation in the diesel can start the growth of "algae". Not the green stuff, it is usually dark brown to black, or sometimes a bright yellow. Causes hell with fuel systems, especially Tier IV Engines.
3. Over the road, or fuel station diesel, get's turned over much quicker that off-road. Good chance of getting fresher diesel at the fuel station.

Just our experience, some may have different opinions and experiences, these are ours. Pay a little extra and assure you get fresh diesel.
No difference. (20+ years professional experience in motor fuels)
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #14  
Hello,
................snip............... I have recently been approved for a Red dyed diesel permit here in Texas. Off road use only. ..................snip.................
Permit - are you serious?

I just pull up to off road Diesel pump at a local station and fill up my drum, or portable tank.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #15  
A number of years ago a convenience store on the Reading side of Ephrata had an ORD dispenser. We had company meetings just past that and I'd take my diesel jugs along and fill them. Don't know if they still have it or not. I now get a supplier to deliver it. They don't mind doing 150 gallons, but I don't believe they do 55 gallon deliveries. They normally do algaecide but may or may not do antigel so I ask when ordering and handle it myself if needed.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #16  
I got ORD for a while at a local oil supplier. I don't use that much, so just filled up a couple of cans from their pump a few times a year. Then I found that their pump price for ORD was more than the service stations were charging for un-dyed fuel, so switched to that.
 
/ Red Dyed Diesel #17  
I use the Red ORD, only thing it does different than on road is turn your filters pink!

I buy from the local farm co-op where all the farmers buy from, or get delivered from ... Without looking it up, it's about 30 cents a gallon cheaper than the on road they also sell ...

No permit needed in Missouri, just swipe your cc.
 
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Honestly…i used to wire up service stations and fuel depots. The red dyed and the regular diesel come out of same tank. They have an inline tank and pump to add the dye as its used. Im sure some older stations may have separate buried red diesel tanks, but unsure about this. Service stations keep having to replace tanks after so many years.
 
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