Recovering Workaholic

[Joel Williams]

I am an old man with regrets of having spent to much of my life solving peoples' investment problems and not enough time appreciating God's gift of the land with which to work.

I have a 1952 8N tractor and a 2004 UTV Yamaha Rhino with which I hope to plant food plots throughout a 150 acre hunting tract located in southwest Va. My passion is strictly bow hunting. I would appreciate any suggestions, as I am a novice at this, and am willing to pay for advice and suggestions. Or return advice/help on investing in these turbelent times.

My first question is, "Where can I buy instructions to make a 10' sprayer boom to fit on a 15 gallon tank that fits in the bed of my Rhino?"

Second question: " How much land can be sprayer with such using 15 gallons?" I am mostly killing all weeds and old crops to get excellent seed beds.

Thank you for allowing me to be part of your group. If I can help anyone, in any way, please do not hesitate to ask. I know you can help me.

JSW

 

[Muhammad]

Welcome to TBN.

 

[smstonypoint]

My first question is, "Where can I buy instructions to make a 10' sprayer boom to fit on a 15 gallon tank that fits in the bed of my Rhino?"

Second question: " How much land can be sprayer with such using 15 gallons?" I am mostly killing all weeds and old crops to get excellent seed beds.


JSW

Joel,

I will take a shot at addressing your questions.

1. Here's a recent thread about building a boom for a 15-gallon sprayer: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/206508-adding-small-boom-15-gallon.html. If your 15-gallon sprayer has the same flow rate as mine, 1 GPM, I think you will find that adding a boom may be technically feasible, but not practical.

2. The answer will depend on the the weeds you plan to eradicate and the herbicide(s) you use. For example, 2,4-D, a broad-leaf herbicide, could require as little as 5 gallons of water/acre or 20+ gallons of water/acre. Your best bet is to determine the weeds you want to eradicate, determine the appropriate herbicide(s), and then follow the herbicide label(s).

If you have a substantial acreage, you might want to think about purchasing a 3-pt sprayer for your tractor. They are not cheap if purchased new, but some TBN members have luck finding good deals on used equipment through CL.

Good luck and enjoy your retirement.

Steve

 

[Papasmith]

A suggestion has been made for buying a boom sprayer for your tractor. This would be the best solution if you have plenty of room to maneuver your 8n and there are large areas to spray. If not, there are pull along sprayers with booms that are ready made that can be pulled by your ATV that would hold well over 15 gallons depending on the size. Here is an example of a boon sprayer in CL.

Hardee 3-point hitch sprayer

Here is a pull behind for a lawnmower that probably could be used by your ATV

Craftsman 14 gallon electric sprayer

Here is something like what I have for small areas where it is hard to maneuver. Unfortunately, this particular one does not have the pump and so on but, the size is great.

Reddick sprayer tank and trailer

If all you have is a 15 gallon tank, then you have a lot to do to make it into a serviceable sprayer. You have the pump, hoses, boom pole, several holes to drill in the right spots and fittings to attach, electrical components, shutoff valves and so on. From what I imagine you are confronting I would look to CL or some other farm supply source for a ready made unit. It would be less likely to leak and more likely to perform satisfactorily.

Lastly, if you want to kill everything, you might be better off using Roundup or its generic equivalent found at your local farm supply.

 

[Combustix]

I am an old man with regrets of having spent to much of my life solving peoples' investment problems and not enough time appreciating God's gift of the land with which to work.

I have a 1952 8N tractor and a 2004 UTV Yamaha Rhino with which I hope to plant food plots throughout a 150 acre hunting tract located in southwest Va. My passion is strictly bow hunting. I would appreciate any suggestions, as I am a novice at this, and am willing to pay for advice and suggestions. Or return advice/help on investing in these turbelent times.

My first question is, "Where can I buy instructions to make a 10' sprayer boom to fit on a 15 gallon tank that fits in the bed of my Rhino?"

Second question: " How much land can be sprayer with such using 15 gallons?" I am mostly killing all weeds and old crops to get excellent seed beds.

Thank you for allowing me to be part of your group. If I can help anyone, in any way, please do not hesitate to ask. I know you can help me.

JSW

Joel don't want to sound preachy but if your looking to do good with your land you might want to look at alternatives to spraying. As you are going to be making feed lots for deer in which you harvest and I would think eat, do you really want to imbibe in those chemicals yourself. Roto tilling everything really well, then planting going heavier on the seed will help squeeze out the weed while giving you the food source for your deer. There are alternatives to chemicals, and the food you eat off this land is much better for you. okay I'm tossing the soap box away. My wife and I have switched to doing things organically and have actually had better results than the other way. Wish you the best of luck with your place whatever you chose.

 

[Papasmith]

Joel don't want to sound preachy but if your looking to do good with your land you might want to look at alternatives to spraying. As you are going to be making feed lots for deer in which you harvest and I would think eat, do you really want to imbibe in those chemicals yourself. Roto tilling everything really well, then planting going heavier on the seed will help squeeze out the weed while giving you the food source for your deer. There are alternatives to chemicals, and the food you eat off this land is much better for you. okay I'm tossing the soap box away. My wife and I have switched to doing things organically and have actually had better results than the other way. Wish you the best of luck with your place whatever you chose.

I agree with you with you generally. There is a strong correlation between use of pesticides by farmers and Parkinson's disease. The use of herbicides also has severe detrimental effects. Agent Orange, the infamous defoliant used in the Vietnam War, had as one of its major ingredients, 2-4, D. This had all sorts of nerve damaging effects especially for those charged with its dispersal.

However, if I were an old man, as the originator of this thread describes himself, I think I would advise the careful use of Roundup on a limited basis at the initial phase of his cleanup program. Use of organic methods are just more labor intensive especially at the beginning of weed/brush eradication. Thereafter, perhaps employ strategies that would minimize the use of herbicides and if possible, eliminate them altogether later on. Congratulations on your commitment to organic methods and I am glad to hear that they are working well for you.

 

[Briana03]

Hello & WELCOME to TBN!

I moved your thread to the Build-It Yourself Forum.

 

[Short Game]

Well, my new neighbors, the John Hancock Insurance Co., are the newest in a growing line of companies in the PacMan economics cycle since Sir James Goldsmith did the leveraged takeover of Crown Zellerbach, around 1980 and wound up with almost our whole county (a county without a single traffic light). They logged off the immediate watershed that I get my drinking water from and last fall, sprayed glyphosate (a.k.a., Round Up, and in this case, "Accord XRT") straight into my water. They swore to me they'd not spray it into the creek, but they did. They sprayed it directly into my water source. The first two times it rained very hard, the water smelled strongly of herbicides. For about three months, beginning not long after those rains, my back broke out in a rash that was the itch from H*ll. Do you suppose that stuff might be bad for us?

"Oh, but this stuff is the safest stuff yet, honest, Scout's honor!"

This is just my experience, your mileage may vary.

 

[retiredmgn]

I am an old man with regrets of having spent to much of my life solving peoples' investment problems and not enough time appreciating God's gift of the land with which to work.

I have a 1952 8N tractor and a 2004 UTV Yamaha Rhino with which I hope to plant food plots throughout a 150 acre hunting tract located in southwest Va. My passion is strictly bow hunting. I would appreciate any suggestions, as I am a novice at this, and am willing to pay for advice and suggestions. Or return advice/help on investing in these turbelent times.

My first question is, "Where can I buy instructions to make a 10' sprayer boom to fit on a 15 gallon tank that fits in the bed of my Rhino?"

Second question: " How much land can be sprayer with such using 15 gallons?" I am mostly killing all weeds and old crops to get excellent seed beds.

Thank you for allowing me to be part of your group. If I can help anyone, in any way, please do not hesitate to ask. I know you can help me.

JSW

"I am an old man with regrets of having spent to much of my life solving peoples' investment problems and not enough time appreciating God's gift of the land with which to work. "Ok, friend, consider yourself, 'arrived'. There is no currency here. It's a sharing thing. Throw out a question, lots of people waiting in the wings to see if they can help you. Others may throw out a question and you may have things to add.

"I would appreciate any suggestions, as I am a novice at this, and am willing to pay for advice and suggestions. Or return advice/help on investing in these turbelent times."

Once again, there is no 'pay' here. Think of this as just a big ol' campfire and just a bunch of people tossing out thoughts and chewin' the fat. Time to ease up on the accelerator, drop it down a few gears.

So what you been doin'? Sound pretty high powered?

 

[Short Game]

Yeah, it's all already invested in junk or mortgaged for machinery. Maybe if I ever charged someone...

I grew up in the LA burbs and moved to the boonies not long after I finished my tour on subs. I didn't have a clue, but folks helped me out. I've been on the land for 38 years now. I'm worried now that I'm not far enough out of the way. None of us may have much time left, so let's enjoy it and try to do it right. I've decided for me it's helping my neighbors. I was given my first tractor by someone I served. He was always there to help his neighbors with it, so I figgered I'd better keep to the tradition.

I won't always agree with everything I hear by this campfire, but if you show respect, you're welcome, for my part. If we are clear about what's opinion, and what's experience, and we share more of the latter, then we've done each other a solid.

Geez, Retired, ya got me goin'.

Look at me, I'm ramblin' again.

 

[retiredmgn]

Yeah, it's all already invested in junk or mortgaged for machinery. Maybe if I ever charged someone...

I grew up in the LA burbs and moved to the boonies not long after I finished my tour on subs. I didn't have a clue, but folks helped me out. I've been on the land for 38 years now. I'm worried now that I'm not far enough out of the way. None of us may have much time left, so let's enjoy it and try to do it right. I've decided for me it's helping my neighbors. I was given my first tractor by someone I served. He was always there to help his neighbors with it, so I figgered I'd better keep to the tradition.

I won't always agree with everything I hear by this campfire, but if you show respect, you're welcome, for my part. If we are clear about what's opinion, and what's experience, and we share more of the latter, then we've done each other a solid.

Geez, Retired, ya got me goin'.

Look at me, I'm ramblin' again.

Well sounds like we're on the same page. Gaugeing by your hat and shirt I'd imagine there's a good ol' pair of crusty cowboy boots on your feet. Slip those suckers off and warm your feet by the fire. I'll grab some beers and hot dogs from the cooler.
Say, where did the OP Joel Williams get off to? I'll grab a beer for him too. If you see him come by tell him to pull up a stump. Sounds like he could use an evening by the fire with us.

 

[Short Game]

Well, maybe it's time for a disclaimer. I wear sweats and a ball cap, and most of the time, rubber boots. I'm a vegetarian who will occasionally catch a fish and do eat and release. That said, there is a keg of Vortex IPA in my fridge. Care for a taste?

 

[davygp38]

Welcome to the forum. It's a shame your first question got dragged into a debate on pesticide use. As far as your original post goes, I tried to figure out a way to make a large boom for my 15 gallon sprayer, and by the time I got done, I found out that the pump was not able push the round up through all the extra tubing. We do small 1/2 acre plots spread out around 1200 acres. we have 6 now with a few more planned. I now use the regular 6' boom on the back of the quad, and make the extra passes. I don't know how big your plots are going to be but once you have "rounded up" the spot your planting (TWICE!!) you should only have to do maintenance spraying with Slay, or similar twice a year. Might as well save the headaches of trying to make a bigger boom, and just make a few extra passes.

 

[Redneck in training]

I am an old man with regrets of having spent to much of my life solving peoples' investment problems and not enough time appreciating God's gift of the land with which to work.

I have a 1952 8N tractor and a 2004 UTV Yamaha Rhino with which I hope to plant food plots throughout a 150 acre hunting tract located in southwest Va. My passion is strictly bow hunting. I would appreciate any suggestions, as I am a novice at this, and am willing to pay for advice and suggestions. Or return advice/help on investing in these turbulent times.

My first question is, "Where can I buy instructions to make a 10' sprayer boom to fit on a 15 gallon tank that fits in the bed of my Rhino?"

Second question: " How much land can be sprayer with such using 15 gallons?" I am mostly killing all weeds and old crops to get excellent seed beds.

Thank you for allowing me to be part of your group. If I can help anyone, in any way, please do not hesitate to ask. I know you can help me.

JSW

Here is my sprayer. It was originally quite cheap pull behind type. The carrier is all bolted together so to make it you need only hack saw and basic wrenches. I also reused the wheels from the pull behind. I can move it around even full. It is powered up from the tractor. I installed trailer socket on the back. One contact of the socket is always powered from the battery via 50A fuse and is used in example for fuel pump, one contact is powered via a marine switch installed on the tractor and is used to turn the sprayer on and off. I was thinking about a motion switch to turn the sprayer off when tractor stops but never got to it. When I get time I will add two more nozzles on folding arm extensions.

 

[oldnslo]

Companies like Fimco and others make sprayers that are designed for ATV's. If the link works this shows there product line. May prove much easier to purchanse a "package" deal that try to build your own. I would suspect your local tractor supply would have comparable units.

good luck on your projects.

FIMCO ATV Sprayers

 

[Short Game]

So long as all new chemicals are innocent until proven guilty, when there is not any serious testing done to speak of, the debate on pesticides will be inherent, even if mostly ineffective. It is an individual choice that may have serious consequences down the line for both the user and the land. Since we are ruled by them with the greatest access to the rulers, and the ruled, dummied down by hired experts, teevee ads, and the highest powered of PR firms, it his here, in the last remnants of unpoisoned grass roots, where the individual can hope to learn enough to make a hopefully well informed decision. So, if the issue comes up, it is an issue.

 

[Combustix]

Welcome to the forum. It's a shame your first question got dragged into a debate on pesticide use. As far as your original post goes, I tried to figure out a way to make a large boom for my 15 gallon sprayer, and by the time I got done, I found out that the pump was not able push the round up through all the extra tubing. We do small 1/2 acre plots spread out around 1200 acres. we have 6 now with a few more planned. I now use the regular 6' boom on the back of the quad, and make the extra passes. I don't know how big your plots are going to be but once you have "rounded up" the spot your planting (TWICE!!) you should only have to do maintenance spraying with Slay, or similar twice a year. Might as well save the headaches of trying to make a bigger boom, and just make a few extra passes.

My original post was not to debate pesticides, but to offer an alternative to the use of pesticides, I started out that route and seemed to be throwing away a lot of money on roundup, fertilizer and the lot. I have since stopped several years ago and have gone back to the methods used long before chemically enhanced gardening, farming or food plots, and my results have been better than when I used the expensive modern alternative. Geese, ducks, chickens and goats. I have even used my neighbors hogs to turn a field, and as far as I know there is no MSDS sheets for livestock. I sold my sprayer and used the money for other implements. I am no longer a big believer in better living through chemistry, and have no gripe against whatever you spray on your garden as I don't eat it at my house. Was just offering my experience, with improving my land.

 

[tpic402]

I had same situation ending up buying used 65gal orchard sprayer off of ebay,and building boom from 1 1/4 sq tubing, works great total investment about $375 or so. if you buy used be sure pump is good and tank is good these are the most expensive parts, you did not say can you weld and fabricate