Radiator hose "snapped"

[Omnipotent]

Went to radiator shop, they were basically worthless but called the "repair" shop they use, and they indicated not repairable. After pulling off the radiator and really examining it....there is less than a 1/4 inch of plastic there, meaning no way to tap it that I would trust. Looking at the drain plug, oddly enough it is molded 1/2 in deep with threads for the drain plug, but that still leaves the hole I'd have to deal with.

At this point I think buying new (I wish I could find refurb) is the best option to ensure things don't snowball as has been mentioned.

I've beaten this old tractor up over the years (14 to be exact)...using it more like a skid steer than tractor and other than an electrical short this is the first major item to give way...albeit due to my own utilization of the tractor for things not tractor like.

So 1K more to Bobcat....not my idea of a Xmas gift, lol.

 

[5030]

Good luck with replacing the bottom tank in as much as the lower tank is sonically welded to the center section. Modine patented that process years ago.

 

[FOP]

Bobcat's part pricing is on crack. My 2020 CT2025 is a rebranded Kioti (Daedong).
I wonder if its possible to cross-reference it to a Daedong / Kioti part number for a lower $.

Assuming time is not critical and a dealer is accessible, a new similar model's radiator might be modified to fit. Either Bobcat or Kioti.

List of tractors built by Daedong for other companies

This is a list of tractors built by Daedong for other companies.

tractors.fandom.com

according to the above source: Daedong built the CT335 (38hp/28kw)
Along with these other potential brand cross-references:

• 1 Bobcat by Daedong
• 2 Cub Cadet by Daedong
• 3 Daenong by Daedong
• 4 JCB by Daedong
• 5 Landini by Daedong
• 6 McCormick International by Daedong
• 7 New Holland Tractor Models by Daedong
• 8 Taral Tractor Models by Daedong

Knowing the year and the engine model should allow other dealers to find a suitable doner.
Worst case reach out to Daedong directly for support with a potential replacement

Bobcat and CK Kioti series are basicly the same.

So folks know, if you looking at a used Bobcat the CK series Kioti line is nearly identical mechanically. The wiring and electrical are a bit different, but close. You can search here for parts maych up, or use the respective web pages found at MIE and the Bobcat web site. By comparing the...

www.tractorbynet.com

 

[Omnipotent]

Thanks for that exhaausitve list...I knew Kioti/Bobcat were clones of each other, didn't realize all the others were as well.

Guess time to dial for dollars and see if any of the others will fit.

 

[nyone]

Check a tractor parts yard. Theres no aftermarket for them?

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

You'll NEVER clean it good enough for any kind of "glue", including JB. A radiator shop may be able to "weld" it, but I doubt it. A new one is in order, I believe.

Yeah, you clean it and hit it with a propane torch a little bit, sand it to scuff area. It's clean. Get a plastic welder that hooks to an air supply and weld it back in there. I'm just a guy that lives outside a podunk town in Arkansas, and even I have a plastic welder.

 

[shooterdon]

I am cheap. $1000 for a plastic radiator seems out of line to me. If I could not fix it, I would look at finding a car/truck radiator that was close to the same size.

A few years ago, I bought a new radiator for a Ram truck and it cost less than $100. They might be $150 now.

 

[gstrom99]

A new, custom aluminum one can be made in pretty much ANY shape, by a capable shop. May not be a bunch cheaper, though...

 

[Carl_NH]

Check this radiator out from Little Tractor for a Kioti DK35 KIOTI DK35SE HST RADIATOR ASSY

 

[Omnipotent]

Yeah I found the little tractor site as well, was calling them today to see if they have any in stock.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

It's a plastic world today. I have a 1976 truck here that runs on the original radiator. I have several pre 1979 trucks that I have never even thought of buying a radiator for. But they are metal.

Plastic welders work good. Used my first one in 1986. I've welded high pressure gas lines going to gas meters.

 

[Omnipotent]

Ugh...not much cheaper for used...still $800, granted cheaper than new, but not much.

 

[Cougsfan]

Normally I would have said that gluing it is a horrible idea. My son has a Toyota pickup that had a similar break on its plastic radiator. He decided to use JB weld to fix it temporarily until he could find a used radiator to replace it. That has been over a year ago and he has yet to replace the radiator. I still wouldn't recommend gluing but I would no longer say it is a horrible idea.

 

[sd455dan]

I glued the one in my 9c1 caprice and It went almost a year before it started dripping. Then checked and a new radiator wasn't bad at all so put a new one in.

Replaced a couple other car and Jeep radiators and they were under a hundred bucks aftermarket new.

Needed a bunch of cooling on my warmed over 455 I put in the RX7 and was able to find an ALL Aluminum TIG welded one from Summit that could be made to fit for $160.

It seems some tractor manufacturers are sticking it to the customer on these prices because they can. Being out of warranty , it would make sense to get some measurements and do some searching on line.

 

[ruffdog]

The acrylic epoxy is expensive but is great for composites.

McMaster-Carr

 

[shooterdon]

One last comment wrt to trying a repair. Almost all my tractor work is done on my property and the tractor is stored inside. The chance of a catastrophic failure is low and I would be at home anyway. If there is a slow leak, it will be apparent when I go to use the tractor and I can deal with it in the garage.

My vote is to try to fix it or cobble up an aftermarket radiator to replace it. $1000 is nuts for what you are getting.

 

[Williy]

You can poke fun at this idea but I have
used it and it works on some stuff!
PVC cleaner and PVC cement try cleaning
it with the PVC cleaner and then use the
cement if it works on your project its cheaper
the $1,000 bucks
Some times it works and some times it don't
but its a hit and miss and even if it don't work
it didn't cost very much to find out!

willy

 

[Omnipotent]

Thanks all...I agree with everything that has been said with regards to repairs....the reality is I would need to make sure it holds day in and day out. It is simple enough to put a rubber pan or something underneath the radiator when not in use and monitor while it's sitting, I'm more concerned with it acting up while in use. The other issue I'm having is the temp sensor seems to be iffy lately, so my temp gauge stays on cold even after hours of use. So this might turn into a two-fold fix...never really worried about the temp gauge as everything else was always working correctly.

Think I'll go with the plastic welder or the PVC cement idea....I'll report back once I've done something and let you know how it went.

 

[Jstpssng]

The other issue I'm having is the temp sensor seems to be iffy lately, so my temp gauge stays on cold even after hours of use.

If your coolant is low that will happen.

 

[etpm]

The acrylic epoxy is expensive but is great for composites.

McMaster-Carr

I have used a couple acrylic based two part adhesives that were made for especially hard to bond plastics. The results were in one case fantastic and in the other case very good.
Eric