PTO Generator Question

[cdaigle430]

The best thing is to first know what your home power usage. When my hot tub is running, heating and one jet pump going it consumes 9kw, then the clothes drier when its heating consumes 6kw, one burner on my electric stoves uses 3kw so those are the most power hungry devices I have. I have a 16kw generator (not a PTO) but I would never consider loading it more than 70% capacity for very long(11.2kw). With just the hot tub filtering I can run the whole house no problem on a 16kw generator.

I have a Solar System so I can accurately tell you what consumes what by the SolerEdge meter.

That being said-if I ever invested in a PTO generator it would have to be a minimum of 16kw. My tractor pits out 19.7 hp on the PTO so now I just need to find a 16kw or more that will run efficiently on a 19.7hp PTO. Is there such a thing as a 16kw generator that can run from a 22.5 hp tractor with 19.7hp PTO....I dont think so

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have been at many Mennonite shops with all kinds of Lasers, Plasmas, Robots, you name it. Diesel Generators don`t seem to pose a problem, although yes I am talking large ones and not PTO sets.

You might have trouble running your Haydron super collider!

Actually, forget about the frequency as far as stuff not working, but think of it more as a remote TACH.



These are the two machines I used twenty years ago. Both pictures taken for selling the equipment. 15KW High Speed rotor Onan. I have an electrically heated house, and I once tried to kill the generator by turning on every load could, and couldn`t. Sorry, I don`t know the numbers. But it is interesting that given that, using a 540-1000 JD gearbox, I could not spin that same genny with no load at all. Must be all about the governor settings.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I have never figured out why, when the power goes out for some one, and they are on generator power, they have to run everything in their house?

I mean, can't you go without a hot tub or other "non essential" power robber, until the power comes back on??

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

My thinking exactly. Good time to find something that has to be welded too! I mean, it's nice to have capacity to live like normal, but in a prolonged outage a small thrifty slow running Diesel would be a much better bet.

I kind of take for granted that I always have all my basic needs and every light works. But it never ceases to please me, that the microwave is available and working to heat my morning coffee.

 

[WranglerX]

I have never figured out why, when the power goes out for some one, and they are on generator power, they have to run everything in their house?

I mean, can't you go without a hot tub or other "non essential" power robber, until the power comes back on??

SR

During power failure we go minimal.... Keep refrigerator going and well going with small generator (6500 watt) heat from fire place, A lamp or two for reading... Screw the idiot box (TV) sort of nice to have some quiet time and maybe really have conversation with other family members or maybe read a bit...
Dale

 

[LawnSpecialties]

I can run my Winpower genny off of my JD F935 mower even though it turns the 'wrong' way from a driveshaft rotation standpoint. The only trouble is transferring our dinners to the freezer and the ice cream and ice cubes to the oven.

As the OP of this thread, I am skimming through various posts. Many are not exactly what I am looking for but still pertain. But I appreciate everyone's comments.

zzvyb6:. Yes, I did see your humor in that one. Hilarious post.

 

[breadtrk]

I prefer a HFT or NT 10kw gas box for emergency use. Not messing with the 3pt, PTO in the rain or sleet. Turn the key, run a cord to the fridge, microwave, and TV or radio, small heater, live in one room till power is back on. KISS

 

[WranglerX]

I prefer a HFT or NT 10kw gas box for emergency use. Not messing with the 3pt, PTO in the rain or sleet. Turn the key, run a cord to the fridge, microwave, and TV or radio, small heater, live in one room till power is back on. KISS

For sure...

Dale

 

[LouNY]

I prefer a HFT or NT 10kw gas box for emergency use. Not messing with the 3pt, PTO in the rain or sleet. Turn the key, run a cord to the fridge, microwave, and TV or radio, small heater, live in one room till power is back on. KISS

I would say that every area and location has a different idea of what may be needed,
in my area depending on the season you may want your furnace or boiler to be up and running, get a power outage in sub zero tempertures sure don't want pipes freezing.
If you rely on a pump for water to drink, wash and flush that's another priority system.
Then depending how many freezers and such, it will all add up and in many cases those small units and extension cords don't cut it.

 

[WranglerX]

I would say that every area and location has a different idea of what may be needed,
in my area depending on the season you may want your furnace or boiler to be up and running, get a power outage in sub zero tempertures sure don't want pipes freezing.
If you rely on a pump for water to drink, wash and flush that's another priority system.
Then depending how many freezers and such, it will all add up and in many cases those small units and extension cords don't cut it.

Under those conditions I would go full standby system with auto start and auto cut over and maybe 250 gallons of propane for fuel.....

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Dale

 

[breadtrk]

I would say that every area and location has a different idea of what may be needed,
in my area depending on the season you may want your furnace or boiler to be up and running, get a power outage in sub zero tempertures sure don't want pipes freezing.
If you rely on a pump for water to drink, wash and flush that's another priority system.
Then depending how many freezers and such, it will all add up and in many cases those small units and extension cords don't cut it.

Not being a smart *** but if you have needs like that..... you need a permanent fixed genset with auto changeover.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I think PTO sets are great, but a pain. I don't miss using one at all. But at least they are Diesel and you get the superior performance from that for a generator. Also, if I ever did again, I would rig up oil and temp shut down on the tractor. I would never be able to sleep with my tractor running out there at full throttle. And yes, on the JD770, that was the throttle position.

 

[shooterdon]

I think PTO sets are great, but a pain. I don't miss using one at all. But at least they are Diesel and you get the superior performance from that for a generator. Also, if I ever did again, I would rig up oil and temp shut down on the tractor. I would never be able to sleep with my tractor running out there at full throttle. And yes, on the JD770, that was the throttle position.

Tend to agree. My tractor is too valuable to use as a generator motor. Not just the cost of it but its usefulness in an emergency.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I know people here scoff at my thinking on a tractor possibly destroying itself in unatended operation. What does a new tractor motor cost these days? I would prefer not to find out.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

It wouldn't be hard to set a pto genset up like the fixed gensets are. Then just drive over and hook up the pto shaft and have power.

Even nicer is to have both the tractor and genset in the same shelter, but I like to be able to keep my pto genset mobile. That way I can have LOT's of electricity, powered by my "always ready" diesel tractor, with it's longer life engine, larger fuel tank, and longer oil change intervals.

We don't use it for every power outage, because I don't NEED it on every power outage. We just aren't THAT much of a power hungry family! AND we keep ourselves prepared for what ever comes along.

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have never owned a gasoline generator. But if I did, a PTO unit would make a nice addition to ones emergency arsenal.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Tend to agree. My tractor is too valuable to use as a generator motor.

I absolutely never worry about that... I chose a tractor brand wisely in the first place, so I don't have to worry about how long will it last.

How many hours do you figure you will put on a tractor in a year running a pto genset??? 100, 200? That's nothing for a tractor and I bet MOST will not put 50 on in a year!

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

Never had a Rad or heater hoses hose blow? I had the hydraulics fail on a tractor while in generator service. I sold the tractor and never did find out what happened.

I had a rad leak on an Onan/Kubota 7.5 set during a week long ice storm outage, but took it away and got it repaired in half a day. Pissed that the guy just cut out the bad core. That set would have shut down for over temp anyway.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Never had a Rad or heater hoses hose blow?

Never, not one time... not a belt break either...

BTW, You always go back to the tractor that you had to run "wide open" to get pto speed. Why did you buy a tractor that you had to run WIDE OPEN to get pto speed???

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

FW Murphy made themselves qute a business waching over peoples engines.