Pole Barn house building

[KB9UDE]

Has anyone here built a house inside a pole barn? I am thinking of building a 1500sq ft or so pole barn and finishing out for a house.

Any suggestions on construction practices? Wood floor supports? Insulating?

Pics always welcome.

 

[QRTRHRS]

Take a peek at some of the pictures on this website.Pole barns are used for anything and everything. Have you checked your zoning? That would be the first thing I would do.

 

[Redneck in training]

We did just that six years ago. It is late and I go to bed. I will find time to write more and add pics tomorrow.

 

[KB9UDE]

Take a peek at some of the pictures on this website.Pole barns are used for anything and everything. Have you checked your zoning? That would be the first thing I would do.

In this area pole barn houses are very popular. I am looking into exact requirements. Thanks for the input.

 

[KB9UDE]

Take a peek at some of the pictures on this website.Pole barns are used for anything and everything. Have you checked your zoning? That would be the first thing I would do.

In this area pole barn houses are very popular. I am looking into exact requirements. Thanks for the input.

In this thread I am really looking for ideas how to support the wood floor in center, insulate, how to setup for crawlspace area, etc...

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Lumber prices are so cheap you will do better just building a conventional house. The morning commodity report says lumber for March delivery is down to $275 per thousand board feet. The advantage of a pole barn is that it uses less lumber, but the steel skin has gotten more expensive.

 

[QRTRHRS]

In this area pole barn houses are very popular. I am looking into exact requirements. Thanks for the input.

In this thread I am really looking for ideas how to support the wood floor in center, insulate, how to setup for crawlspace area, etc...

I recall one pole barn house that used Perma Columns all around along with some in the interior to make the spans doable. The posts were stretigically placed per the house design prints. The floor framing was three or four feet off the virgin ground for a crawl space. I recall the floor was framed out with 2x material but I am not sure if they used strong ties or bolts to the posts.

I was only on site long enough to drop material.

 

[deere755]

As close by as you are I would look at Long Horn buildings in Beecher City. A friend of mine just put up one of their buildings and I was very impressed. I didn;t think I would like any building better then Grabers until I saw his.

 

[MyJoBota]

We just built a house in a pole barn. Permitting was the biggest hurdle. The struture is 80' - 180' with the house including a basement and a two car garage on one end (30'-80"). This is a horse barn with riding arena and living quarters.

 

[KB9UDE]

LongHorn does make a nice building. My dad's 64x40x18 was built by Grabers last year. My uncle is building a new 5acre pond and SturdiBuilt is putting in his cabin. There are several good building companies around here. I plan to do all the inside work. If I had time I would do outside construction also...

 

[Redneck in training]

We built our house in 2004. We purchased Morton Buildings barn Morton Buildings - Pole Barns, Horse Barns, Steel Buildings, Metal Buildings, Storage Buildings, Farm Buildings and finished it into a house by ourselves. The biggest issue was financing. We couldn't get a loan. The main issue was lack of comparable houses in surrounding area. At the end we got a loan for about half of the total cost of the property. We ended up owning about half of the property right of the bat but had no cash left to buy in example a tractor. I never calculated the exact cost per sq foot but the number is somewhere between $80 and $90/sq foot. The cost includes, Grasshopper lawnmower, pond and 850 ft long gravel driveway. We put in estimated about 60 to 70K of our own work.
The house is 4300 sq ft under the roof (includes porch), 3800 heated space (includes 1400 sqft garage) by geothermal floor heating.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

If you want to live in it, don't call it a pole barn. That gives the wrong impression to people, like banks, who only know traditional construction. The correct term is Post Frame Construction.
http://www.nfba.org/files/public/PostFrameConstructionGuide_lowres.pdf

 

[Redneck in training]

If you want to live in it, don't call it a pole barn. That gives the wrong impression to people, like banks, who only know traditional construction. The correct term is Post Frame Construction.
http://www.nfba.org/files/public/PostFrameConstructionGuide_lowres.pdf

That is right comment. While ago I talked to a guy who also lives in Morton and he told me that they never used Morton or barn or pole barn in the loan application and had no issues to get a financing.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Morton builds a lot of commercial buildings and churches. They typically will put in a standard foundation, and use U shaped anchors embedded in the foundation wall to attach the post, so the posts don't sit in the ground like a typical pole barn.

 

[KB9UDE]

I want a wood floor in the house and 3-4ft of crawlspace height. Can I put up say a 12ft-14ft sidewall building and come down 8ft from bottom of truss with my floor? I know I would have to put in piers down the center and build a header so my floor joists could be joined and supported.

 

[bearhawk]

I want a wood floor in the house and 3-4ft of crawlspace height. Can I put up say a 12ft-14ft sidewall building and come down 8ft from bottom of truss with my floor? I know I would have to put in piers down the center and build a header so my floor joists could be joined and supported.

You could just use a floor truss and not worry about supporting the center.

http://www.sbcindustry.com/images/publication_images/ttb floor truss fact sheet.pdf

My first floor is done with 28' trusses and we have a completely open basement. It also allows plenty of space for utilities.

 

[KB9UDE]

I like those trusses!! I have seen them before but had forgot about how easy a system like that would make it!!

 

[bearhawk]

I like those trusses!! I have seen them before but had forgot about how easy a system like that would make it!!

Just keep in mind the depth of the truss, my 28' ones are at least 20" deep.

 

[KB9UDE]

Does anybody know an approx cost per ft for these floor trusses??

 

[jusalooking]

I have known a older couple who has lived in a Morton- House for yrs, the one thing to remember is to heat the floor, at least i would, We was going to build one are selfs but we got another place with a log home, The other thing as far as i think is the tin roof, I have a 40x60x14 KC building with a 24x20 office build on and when it is really raining you can,t hear yourself, I even have it insulated on the ceiling but it still gets loud,