Off Road Diesel?

[Diggin It]

Has anybody priced Dyed fuel in the last few days? Is it falling enough to stock up?

 

[searcyfarms]

i woudl thnk so...........were down to 2.30 here on road fuel
its usually around 30 cents cheaper per gallon for offroad/dyed fuel around here with our tax base

 

[Diggin It]

I mean, we WILL be using it, right? And it doesn't go bad like gasoline, though it may need some treatment.

Maybe low enough to compensate for the price of a transfer tank?

 

[searcyfarms]

have to keep it treated for sure the low sulfur stuff is less forgiving

 

[ovrszd]

Let's do some calculations.

First, we have to estimate the bottom price? Let's be stupid optimistic and say $2 p/gallon savings.

Second, how much fuel do we want to hoard? Let's be stupid and say 500 gallons. So we are assuming we are going to save $1000. It might take us two years to recoup the investment? That's assuming 250 gallons per year??

Third, how much will it cost us to purchase the necessary equipment to do this venture? Probably going to pay $500 for a storage tank. Another $100 to rig it up with a hand pump? So we invested $600.

Fourth, our potential profit is $400. It will take us 24 months to realize this profit. So for the next 24 months we will potentially save $17 p/month.

Fifth, would we borrow the money to do this venture? Probably not because the payback is so low. So why would we do it?

 

[Peter 315]

I mean, we WILL be using it, right? And it doesn't go bad like gasoline, though it may need some treatment.

Maybe low enough to compensate for the price of a transfer tank?

How big of a tank? Reg off road or the bio blend ?

 

[Diggin It]

How big of a tank? Reg off road or the bio blend ?

50, maybe 75. I don't have a way to move much larger.


Dinosaur squeezin's.

 

[searcyfarms]

i wouldnt say that is going to last long/stocking up i go through around 200gal in spring, 75 summer, 200 fall, 100 winter on my stuff - i consider myself a small time user for sure. Prices dont affect my bottom line much with no more than i use

 

[Blaszer]

Just filled up the Genset (200 gallon). I live in Loudoun County, VA, the price difference between on and off road is not more than $.15 on average.
Put ~135 gallons in the gen tank @ ~$2.25 a gallon for OFF road fuel. Also filled up the On road tank (300 gallons) and paid $2.39 a gallon for that (3/12). About to fill up our Gasoline tank... waiting to see if the prices drop some more.

 

[Peter 315]

A new tank is about $300 close in price to used on CL , It depends on how much you us in a year ..

 

[Gary Fowler]

You can bet all the farmers are filling up all their storage tanks right now.
As for cost of a tank and pump, most folks with tank storage have it for convenience so they dont have to lift 5 gallon cans so I wouldn't consider a tank and pump an expense unless you never intended to have one and prefer to lift those cans.
For cheap storage, you cant beat a plastic TOTE TANK. Most of them hold over 200 gallons and around here I can get them for free, just have to clean out the epoxy resin that the mfg. plant uses to make some kind of tiles. I checked mine last week and it is still half full after I topped off my 100 gallon tank so I think I am good for fuel for a couple more years.
Keep your fuel inside where temps are stabile and no water can get in it and it well keep with no treatment chemicals for many years.

 

[Peter 315]

You can bet all the farmers are filling up all their storage tanks right now.
As for cost of a tank and pump, most folks with tank storage have it for convenience so they dont have to lift 5 gallon cans so I wouldn't consider a tank and pump an expense unless you never intended to have one and prefer to lift those cans.
For cheap storage, you cant beat a plastic TOTE TANK. Most of them hold over 200 gallons and around here I can get them for free, just have to clean out the epoxy resin that the mfg. plant uses to make some kind of tiles. I checked mine last week and it is still half full after I topped off my 100 gallon tank so I think I am good for fuel for a couple more years.
Keep your fuel inside where temps are stabile and no water can get in it and it well keep with no treatment chemicals for many years.

Won't the plastic get brittle over time ?

 

[ovrszd]

50, maybe 75. I don't have a way to move much larger.


Dinosaur squeezin's.

I paid $450 for a used 55 gallon transfer tank with pump.

 

[Diggin It]

My 'inside' is out of the Sun and rain, but not climate controlled. I don't like to put more than 8 - 900 pounds on my trailer, so that limits me to 100 gallons. Though I have barrels I can offload into at home, then go back for more.

 

[ovrszd]

What's your annual use?

 

[Diggin It]

100 g this past year, give or take. I expect to use more if the rain ever stops. We've had excess rain for going on 3 years now.

 

[ovrszd]

I don't think you use enough to warrant the monetary expenditure to setup the necessary storage.

 

[Jstpssng]

By the time that you go out and buy a tank, transport it to and from the fuel station pulling your trailer, and treat it so that it doesn't spoil you would be better off banking the money or using it for something which you need, such as locking in next year's heating oil price.

 

[TnAndy]

Just filled up the Genset (200 gallon). I live in Loudoun County, VA, the price difference between on and off road is not more than $.15 on average.
Put ~135 gallons in the gen tank @ ~$2.25 a gallon for OFF road fuel. Also filled up the On road tank (300 gallons) and paid $2.39 a gallon for that (3/12). About to fill up our Gasoline tank... waiting to see if the prices drop some more.

Same here. Waiting until they finally price in the current price of oil. Off road ought to be well under 2 bucks/gal and is not here yet. Funny how if crude goes up 10 bucks/gal, you'd see pump prices rise almost immediately, but let it drop 50%, and it will take months to match it at the pump. I just don't understand it......

 

[Diggin It]

What goes up doesn't come down?