New Powerarc 200

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Meriasek

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I've been in the market for a new stick welder for a minute. I was originally gonna purchase the Hobart Stickmate AC/DC from Tractor Supply, which they retail for $479.99. I also had a 10% coupon that I would have used on the purchase.

After a thourough review of this forum's content regarding the Powerarc 200, and after a couple conversations with Mark on the telephone, I decided to purchase the Everlast machine instead. The tranasction was handled by telephone with Oleg last Friday. The sale price was $315 and $35 shipping to Oklahoma City.

I pulled the machine out of the box today, and attached the plug. I haven't used the machine yet. I have attached a pic (hope it loads). I want to point out that this PA 200 does not have the 'special 6010 port' as described on the website's product information, and as mentioned before in previous discussions. Additionally, I haven't measured it or weighed it, but it surely seems smaller than the dimensions that Mark gave me verbally, and certainly doesn't seem to weigh 38 pounds.

My criticism thus far regarding my interaction with Everlast would be the following: a) It seems Everlast has an inventory management problem. Everlast was out of stock, and subsequently verbally postponed their shipment dates more than once. b) I have always been skeptical of the 6010 port anyways, but as a matter of principle, goods should be sold as advertised. I consider that Everlast might not have even been aware of the change in the product, which makes me wonder how much oversight they have of the production line. It certainly seems that had they known of the product change, that Everlast would have made the change in it's product advertisement or communicated otherwise. And if they did know about it, and failed to make the change known, I would argue that's a questionable business practice.

Lastly, please know, that I'm just an average consumer. The fact remains, that if the machine WELDS as advertised and reviewed, then I frankly don't care. But, I am a little disappointed, and hope that my fellow hobby welders would empathize appropriately.
 

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   / New Powerarc 200 #2  
Meriasek, I understand how you feel, my PA200 will be delivered Monday. After all the hype about how great the PA200 welds with 6010 in the special port, I don't understand why they would remove it. I posted over on their forum to see if we can get a response from someone at Everlast.
 
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We didn't order anything removed. I'll check it out. Its not a regular PA 200, that's for sure. I have a note in already. We'll make sure it gets straightened out. It looks like an early edition of our new 140s scheduled to be out soon.
 
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I got an email from the factory right away.

Appears they made a change we didn't order or someone creating the order on our end didn't spec it out the same as before. :mad: They assure me that it is the same performance though on 6010, and that it will work well with both 7018 and 6010. Our guy in the factory from Canada overseeing production at the time it was made must have missed this feature change.

IF it doesn't work as promised, we will make it right.
 
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Does this mean that the one coming to me will not have that port either? I gotta say that a company not taking note of a major product change like that doesn't reflect well on that company. Seems like if your plant over there is exclusive, you shouldn't have to spec out every order. All it would take is "Make us 5000 more PA200s." If they made a change without Everlast's consent, you need to return them all for the correctly spec'd units or have a sale on those units that are without the additional bells and whistles.

JMO,
Ian
 
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Haywire,

Our plant is exclusive with our products in the US with our unique models, features, and designs. I have mentioned it manufactures for name brand companies in Italy, Germany, Holland, G.Britian,S.America etc. Even our Canadian counterpart specs their units differently than we do to meet their market expectations. The Australians do as well, and they are usually manufactured in the same run. We do encourage the plant to continually make improvements, usually through specifying exactly what is to be changed, but also if they feel something can be done better, we do give them that license, but with the condition they discuss it with us first.

The units will be made right if they aren't up to snuff. I can promise that. We will swap them out with the new ones in a few weeks that are on order and we will make sure it is the way we want. Or if a refund is order, we'll work that out too.

As I said, our plant replied in less than 5 minutes, from the time I sent the email on, that it should work well. IF not, again, it will be corrected with our customers. I am having one sent direct to me to investigate as well. I'LL know if it is the same. I have the original benchmark welder that's burned quite a few pounds of rods(the one in the video), first one made. I'll work them side by side and I can post the results or lack thereof, if doubts remain.

There were a few things we were planning on modifying, since we have a new 300 we are working on. But we wanted to make sure the 300 was up to par before we touched the 200.
 
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Ok, keep us updated. Since I'll be learning from scratch on this machine, I have no way of knowing if it is up to par or not. If you try one out on your end and you say it's fine then I guess I'll take your word on it.

If you don't mind, what were the changes you were planning?

Ian
 
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A little more on spec's. We are charged with every little thing. Each piece and part we specify is charged to us, every foot of cable etc. So, yes, we need to specify each time, and the price is slightly different each time.
 
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Although I do not own a Everlast welder , ( YET !!!:thumbsup: ) , I would have to say Mark's explanation and his Quick Response is something that is very rare in today's society . For the most part anymore , customer service only lasts till you get out the door , yet with Mark and his Everlast product lines , He not only follows up with Customers , but answers question's quickly and informatively from potential new customers . That an is also very informative about welding in general .

Kudo's and 5 out of 5 stars for you Mark , I sincerely hope that I can have the pleasure of doing business with you someday .

Take Care
Fred H.
 
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Mark,

Indeed, thank you for your prompt reply. In no way misconstrue my critique as an ad hominem affront. I would very much appreciate it if you would take this PA 200 variant to task with some rod and post your opinion on it's performance against the the other spec. If you agree that it's up to par, then I'm happy.

Regarding Everlast's inventory and delivery delays. Mark was always very responsive via email in updating the expected shipment dates.

I have posted some additional pics regarding this machine's dimensions. It is roughly 12" deep, 7" wide across the face, and 11.75" tall. Again, I have not weighed it, but the UPS waybill notes it's shipping weight as 20 pounds. It definitely doesn't feel like 38 pounds as referenced on your product information page on your website.
 

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