New model coming out this year

[Slowpoke Slim]

Lou,

I also just noticed on the website it says the 3 pt hitch is a cat II. Hmmm. Not sure if I'd like that or not either? If you didn't have any implements yet, maybe? But I think cat II implements are harder to find (used) and more money (new)?

Also, looks like there's some typo's on the spec sheet. They list a 58 gal fuel capacity. :laughing:

 

[LouNY]

Yes but that horsepower is getting to when the cat 2 would be more appropriate size and strength wise and also another reason to have multiple pto speeds much of the cat 2 is 1000 rpm.
With the adjustable sway bars I can narrow down enough to use cat 1 on the 8050 just a bushing required.

Yea, I doubt that fuel capacity but it would be nice some days I've only got a bit under 32 gallon capacity and I have had to top off sooner then I wanted to. It was a pain when we did a hay field several miles away and I needed to ted it several times and was leaving the tractor in the field.

 

[ericm979]

I think I would personally prefer that they did not convert more models to electro-hyd 4wd. Just personal preference, and part of the KISS principle that lends strength to the Branson as a choice. Adding more "foo-foo" stuff and electronic controls may be where the future in the market goes, as more SCUT and CUT shoppers want the products they buy to be more like new cars. But I kind of like where my model is, other than the radio and dash cluster, nothing else is "electronic" in nature. There are electric switches for lights, cruise, pto and A/C, but they are just switches and relays.

I also wish my loader controls were more discrete. My loader lift and lower control is very good, and can inch it up or down when needed. But my curl function is like a spastic toddler with an energy drink and a donut. And I can't curl and lift at same time. Not the end of the world, but if someone came up with an upgraded FEL control, like an aftermarket kit, I'd be all over it.

Ok, fair point, the electro-hydraulic is not really needed and would add compexity. I'd be happy if the existing 4wd was easier to shift out of. OTOH the electro hydraulic PTO is pretty reliable. And electric-hydraulic actuation of 4wd would allow it to be turned on and off while moving, and allow Branson to put it in 4wd when braking on a downhill with just a simple level sensor and relay.

It'd be possible to replace the loader valve with a better one. I think the cables are pretty standard. However it's a crap shoot unless you get one that other people have used on a similar loader and reported that it allows simultaneous operation.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

That is an interesting point on having the front end engaging during braking for hills. I live in an area that is extremely flat ground, most of the state is actually very flat. You guys that live in real hills and mountains have to contend with "stuff" that I don't have to worry about. I can see where that would be useful to buyers in your case. And I have not had any issues at all with my pto controls, so there is that too. I guess I'm just old enough I initially view all "improvements" with a skeptical eye.

 

[PapeCAT]

o so we juts got the first load in off the truck here are some more close up pictures of the new 5835R, and i was mistaken the 6225 won't be coming to america, however they will instead be releasing a new 65 hp model in 2022 which i've been told by our dealer rep will be the 6535R
we will still be getting the 7445, and the Branson 110hp which has yet to be given an official designation.
i attached a few picture sthe rest are at the link below
5835R pictures

Any chance we can see the google drive photos, it says they have been "moved to the trash"

 

[Texasmark]

.....if they can just get the EPA to release the 7445 model and we will be good. From what i've been told these we be built off the older 30 series chassis.

You mean off this chassis-engine (Cummins B 3.3 NA):

 

[Texasmark]

Lou,

I also just noticed on the website it says the 3 pt hitch is a cat II. Hmmm. Not sure if I'd like that or not either? If you didn't have any implements yet, maybe? But I think cat II implements are harder to find (used) and more money (new)?

Also, looks like there's some typo's on the spec sheet. They list a 58 gal fuel capacity. :laughing:

No problem with Cat II and Cat I implement: TSC sells the conversion sleeve for a couple of bucks; being setup for Cat II allows you to use both; cat II lift arms are sturdier and the difference in performance of this and the 3910 vs the Cat I 2000 and 3000 is very noticeable. Also, if you have a Cat I implement and it is borderline or you work it harder than it's intended purpose, and find yourself bending lift pins, you can convert to cat II lift pins and solve that problem. BTDT

On the fuel, probably need to turn the 5 upside down. Other thing is the fuel filler is at waist level on the 30 chassis, mine anyway.

 

[Texasmark]

Ok, fair point, the electro-hydraulic is not really needed and would add compexity. I'd be happy if the existing 4wd was easier to shift out of. OTOH the electro hydraulic PTO is pretty reliable. And electric-hydraulic actuation of 4wd would allow it to be turned on and off while moving, and allow Branson to put it in 4wd when braking on a downhill with just a simple level sensor and relay.

It'd be possible to replace the loader valve with a better one. I think the cables are pretty standard. However it's a crap shoot unless you get one that other people have used on a similar loader and reported that it allows simultaneous operation.

The 30 chassis comes with electric and manual lift selection. Additionally there is a depth lever back at the 3 pt for setting max depth or to be used in connecting implements for height selection. The electric is the flip of a switch....hit the end of a row, flip the switch, mash the appropriate brake, make the turn, flip the switch and be on your way just like the last row you made. No reliability problems with that. If there were, both the control switch and the sensing mechanism are easily accessible.

The gear meshing of 4wd is smooth on engagement but you need to be in reverse when operating the lever to get out. After the mechanism wears somewhat, this probably won't be necessary. It's not a show stopper.

The electric PTO is dual functional on the 30 chassis, both Live (electrical, not mechanical) and Independent. 24 clutch discs spin up to make the engagement preventing any slamming of the gear train when transitioning and the operator has the throttle set up too high. Mine comes with 3 speeds: 540, 1000, and an intermediate.

Nothing wrong with the FEL joystick. Adjustable positioning and multifunctional....curl and lift simultaneously if at 45* position.

 

[PapeCAT]

The older 30 series has a large hub 8 lug front axle whereas the newer 5835 has a smaller 6 lug hub on the front axle. I wonder what the difference in axle capacity is of these two, if any. Especially since the new 35 series has that very powerful BL350 loader which lifts near as much as the BL450 seen on the 7845

 

[Texasmark]

The older 30 series has a large hub 8 lug front axle whereas the newer 5835 has a smaller 6 lug hub on the front axle. I wonder what the difference in axle capacity is of these two, if any. Especially since the new 35 series has that very powerful BL350 loader which lifts near as much as the BL450 seen on the 7845

One of the reasons, and there were several since I had been shopping the local colors starting in April, gave up on what I saw, and spotted this sucker in Sept....just so happened i bought it the last day of the month and a $1k discount was ending that day....squeaked by.....

Back to the story, reasons included the amount of steel and cast iron in this sucker. On front ends I liked the mass of the thing and the fact that there are no zerks....it's all inside the cast iron, gear oil lubed...except the steering arm pivots ...obviously, but it's sealed with no zerks.

I had a JD 4010 with a JD 152 loader, 6' bucket like this one. Fronts were implement 11x15 or 16, 8 ply, 2 wd. Even at that, the front end failed me more than once. Tires on the front of this are 12 ply.

 

[Asteral]

i fixed the link to the pics, it got deleted by mistake.

 

[YanmarFever]

I think I would personally prefer that they did not convert more models to electro-hyd 4wd. Just personal preference, and part of the KISS principle that lends strength to the Branson as a choice. Adding more "foo-foo" stuff and electronic controls may be where the future in the market goes, as more SCUT and CUT shoppers want the products they buy to be more like new cars. But I kind of like where my model is, other than the radio and dash cluster, nothing else is "electronic" in nature. There are electric switches for lights, cruise, pto and A/C, but they are just switches and relays.

I also wish my loader controls were more discrete. My loader lift and lower control is very good, and can inch it up or down when needed. But my curl function is like a spastic toddler with an energy drink and a donut. And I can't curl and lift at same time. Not the end of the world, but if someone came up with an upgraded FEL control, like an aftermarket kit, I'd be all over it.

Dbaer78,

Maybe since that model is so new, the electro-clutch gizmo just wasn't adjusted correctly out of the box? Maybe the dealer can make a few calls to Branson N. America and get some tech folks involved?

Jim, I too feel the same way, I personally dont want to many electronics on a tractor. I spent many nights trouble shooting the controls on those Yanmar fx models until we figured them out.
I like my machines nice and simple, like the old branson 3510s.

 

[PapeCAT]

Got some more pics from my local dealer. Looks like a great tractor. Would like to try the power shuttle first hand.

 

[ericm979]

Neat. The cockpit's been updated from the 20/25s. What are the small sliders between the loader joystick and the rear remote?

 

[LouNY]

Neat. The cockpit's been updated from the 20/25s. What are the small sliders between the loader joystick and the rear remote?

The black box with the slide handle in it is the 3 point lift arm control, it most likely also has a knob under a flip cover in the rear for lift speed and one for draft sensitivity.

 

[PapeCAT]

I test drove a 5835R last week. It痴 a great size tractor... but Im not sure Its the one for me yet. My biggest complaint is the loader seems slow and it won稚 multi-function whatsoever like my kubota does with its regenerative loader valve. However, it does seem deliberate and I think would be very strong. Also, I知 not sure the one I drove was quite right. The clutch pack seemed to slip quite a bit sometimes between forward and reverse even with the forward/reverse sensitivity set aggressively. The tractor looks well built and the 3pt hitch looks super beefy and operates extremely smooth. Turning radius is amazing as well. I would guess sharper than my smaller kubota. I知 not writing this tractor off at all... I just think I may wait and let some of the possible bugs get worked out first.

Alright so I test drove one of these today at my local dealer. The tractor ran extremely smooth and quiet even at full RPM, which I used to cycle the loader. I was able to find that sweet spot and lift/lower + curl etc. The loader control seemed very responsive and intuitive, the stick seemed to be mounted directly on the valve block which was a nice improvement over the push/pull cable system on my old 3725H. As far as the power reverser I found it to be predictable and the adjustment dial worked great for smooth vs. agressive clutch engagement when going from fwd to reverse and back in 1st and 2nd range. I didn't have too much time to wind it out in the road gear unfortunately. All in all I think this tractor seems to be a very welcome addition to the lineup. The BL350 loader is built very stout with large cylinders, and the subframe structure is very beefy. I would love to stretch its legs and try to move 2x2x6 bin block but that would be maxing it out for sure. Wonder if they are going to offer a cab any time soon.

 

[Asteral]

i've been told the cab option will be available during the middle of the first quarter of next year.

 

[dbaer78]

Alright so I test drove one of these today at my local dealer. The tractor ran extremely smooth and quiet even at full RPM, which I used to cycle the loader. I was able to find that sweet spot and lift/lower + curl etc. The loader control seemed very responsive and intuitive, the stick seemed to be mounted directly on the valve block which was a nice improvement over the push/pull cable system on my old 3725H. As far as the power reverser I found it to be predictable and the adjustment dial worked great for smooth vs. agressive clutch engagement when going from fwd to reverse and back in 1st and 2nd range. I didn't have too much time to wind it out in the road gear unfortunately. All in all I think this tractor seems to be a very welcome addition to the lineup. The BL350 loader is built very stout with large cylinders, and the subframe structure is very beefy. I would love to stretch its legs and try to move 2x2x6 bin block but that would be maxing it out for sure. Wonder if they are going to offer a cab any time soon.

I may go back here after awhile and drive a different one after the local dealer sells a few. Like I said... I think it’s going to be a hit for Branson... I think the one I drove before may have had some early production “bugs” maybe. The dealer is a great mechanic and has sold Branson for over 20 years I think... he’ll get them figured out. I’ve also been looking at LS.... have a great dealer for them as well... we shall see