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Alan,

<font color="blue"> I'd say it is whatever you say it is. Its your house </font>

What do you think of "Farmtation"? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If you read my reply to Eddie, I've just decided to call it "Home" and leave it at that.
 
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Don, thanks for going to the trouble of doing that mock up. I hope my grass is that green. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ New Home Construction #623  
bmac,

Here's the pic of our old house. Nothing special but if shows the color contrasts. This is after we installed vinyl siding several years ago and has black shutters. Originally they were dark burgandy. You can see the lovely Mrs. Steve still wanted a burgandy door for a splash of color.

I hope you and Eddie both know my comment about "mean spirited" was in jest. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Steve,

I couldn't access the photo - I'll try again later.

<font color="blue"> I hope you and Eddie both know my comment about "mean spirited" was in jest. </font>

I knew you were joking. But Eddie is such a sensitive lug, you may have brought him to tears. Send him some flowers. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hey, Eddie, I'm joking, too.
 
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<font color="blue">I hope my grass is that green.</font> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I added some texture to the green cement. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ....and made a few other changes.

Don
 

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Don, Looks nice. Thanks. What software did you use to do this?
 
/ New Home Construction #627  
bmac and Steve,

You guys, and others like you, are the reason I'm here!!

Just because you hate my suggestions and ideas doesn't mean I wont respect you in the morning. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just kidding.

I'm here to learn from all of you. There's always more than a dozen ways to do the same thing and I'm lucky if I know one or two. I though out my thoughts and ideas based on what I know or might have been told. It doesn't mean it's the right way or even the best way, just what I know and thought might help either you, or maybe somebody else reading a post.

I like your house. I like it white. I like the style and I like the way it looks. There's no question that you have build an amazing home. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

My suggestions were based on what I might do if it was mine. I don't mean to say that's what I'd do, but just some of the options that I'd consider.

If you ever watch a show on HGTV called Curb Apeal, you're familiar with how they change the total look to a home by changing the color, some details and landscaping. For me, it's just amazing what they do with those homes.

If bmac wants to leave the house alone, I'm all for it. ****, it's a beautiful house. But from what I've read, he's got this feeling that somethings missing. I don't know what you paid for it, but I've got a good idea. For that amount, you shouldn't have any doubts when it's done. You should have the biggest grin on your face everytime you see it and that grin should remain on your face long after you walk in the front door.

My house cost me $30,000 to build. Less than some of you have into your kitchens or your pickups. It's not fancy or very big, but when I see it, I get that feeling. I love driving up to it and seeing it for the first time as I pass the trees. I enjoy looking up from what I'm doing and just admiring my home. It gives me a huge amount of pleasure and satisfaction.

I offer my advice, suggestions and ideas in the hope that you too have that feeling when you look at your home.

Eddie
 
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<font color="blue">What software did you use to do this? </font>

http://www.serif.com/PagePlus/PagePlus11/index.asp

The trees and bushes came from a seperate 'clip art' software.

......I added 'brown shutters' one side and 'black shutters' on the other side.

Don
 

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/ New Home Construction #629  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( But, please do continue the feedback, positive or negative.)</font>

I'll take this as an invitation to give you my unprofessional opinion. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Man, you have one beautiful house. The mouldings, the proportions, the floor, the transoms, the color choices, the stone work -- everything about it.

With the possible exception of the front. And I do mean possible. These things are hard to tell from a picture.

Here's my view on the front. The biggest danger of having a monochromatic house is that the windows tend to look like holes or cutouts in the walls rather than windows. Painted trim, shutters and even shadow lines from very deep trim can ease this problem some, also above window deep crowns.

You posted some pictures of other buildings, but I think you've probably noticed that all these houses have divided-light windows. Divided light windows are another way to keep the "hole in the wall" look from comming out. I personally think that's what you're front facade is missing to give it just the look that fits all the interior design work. To me, just a personal reaction, I think the farm house style needs them. The original farm houses were built that way because large glass was expensive and labor to do the mullions was not so much, but now it's part of the vernacular, part of the viewers inherent understanding of what a farm house looks like.

Hope you don't mind my blatherings.

Cliff
 
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Good evening, Eddie.

<font color="blue"> like your house. I like it white. I like the style and I like the way it looks. </font> Liar /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<font color="blue"> If you ever watch a show on HGTV called Curb Apeal, you're familiar with how they change the total look to a home by changing the color, some details and landscaping. For me, it's just amazing what they do with those homes.
</font>

I love that show and fully agree with you. Amazing transformations, often with just little things, here and there.

<font color="blue"> You should have the biggest grin on your face everytime you see it and that grin should remain on your face long after you walk in the front door.
</font>

A good friend taught me a lesson long time ago when my wife and I were looking for a house to buy. Don't get emotionally attached to a house. If you can't get the deal you want - just walk away. Another will come along.

Well, one of our early mistakes was proceeding with the construction without a plan that we were 100% happy with. We did this, not because we had any emotional attachment, but because we had a pressing time issue to get started. We needed to started building in order to get my son enrolled in the new school district. We did not want him changing school in the middle of the year. The other issue was that we were just worn down from the 9 months of design work. So, we accepted a plan that we liked OK and started construction. We became impatient and I believe this was a big mistake on our part. Neither my wife nor I had the warm fuzzies from day one.

Having said that, there is very little that we really "dislike". In fact, I don't know of anything that my wife dislikes. She thinks it will take very little to get the exterior esthetics where she will smile when she drives up. The interior really puts a grin on her face. My biggest disappointments are in the basement and I've beaten that horse to death. I think the interior is beautiful, but one can always find things they would have done differently. I think we started with a compromised plan, but ended up with a very nice (but far from perfect) result. Thanks to input from many folks and skilled craftsman, I think the result far exceeds the quality of the original plans. Still, I don't know that I will ever grin about a house - this or any other.

<font color="blue"> It's not fancy or very big, but when I see it, I get that feeling. I love driving up to it and seeing it for the first time as I pass the trees. I enjoy looking up from what I'm doing and just admiring my home. It gives me a huge amount of pleasure and satisfaction.
</font>

A huge difference, Eddie, is that your home was the product of your imagination, creativity, and hard work. You put alot of yourself into that project and continue to do so. Had I actually built this house, I can guarantee you I would be grinin' like a possum in a garbage can. You are a creator. I am a consumer. Big, big difference in the source or reason for our happiness level as it applies to our homes. And, I don't think there should be a correlation between the dollars spent and the level of happiness, unless it is an inverse relationship. I know for me, the less I pay, the happier I am. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

My expectation is that at some point, when I drive up to the house, I will get a grin as I think of something one of my kids said, or one of their accomplishments, or how lucky I am to have a loving wife. Memories of my family while living in the house will make me smile - not the structure itself. I want my emotions tied to my family and friends, not inanimate objects. You will have the same memories, plus being able to admire the fruit of your labor and creativity.

As an aside, I don't get all giddy with a new car, either. I know folks who will wash a new car everyday, vacuum it 3 time a week, really baby it. Mine are luck to get washed once a year. They don't even get a space in the garage. They are just cars. So, at least I'm consistent. Now, I do get interesting vehicles occassionally. People come up and say, "how do you like your car?" I almost don't know how torespond. "well, it's ok" "hasn't left me stranded on the side of the road" "gets me where I want to go" I don't know. I've never said,"OH, man, I LOVE this thing!!!" Its just not me. I guess its the same with me and houses.
 
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<font color="blue"> Divided light windows....... </font>

I added them across the second floor windows.....

I also made the shutters on the right similar to the color of the roof. The shutters on the left are similar to the color of the foundation.

I thought a black and white dog would also be appropriate.....so I added one. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Keep the ideas coming.....

Don
 

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Cliff,

<font color="blue"> I'll take this as an invitation to give you my unprofessional opinion. </font>

Jump right in!

<font color="blue"> Man, you have one beautiful house. The mouldings, the proportions, the floor, the transoms, the color choices, the stone work -- everything about it.
</font>

Very kind of you, thanks. If you've been reading along, most of the eye-catching features happened because we let talented craftsmen do what they do best. We asked for their input and, in the case of the molding and tile, we gave them some photographic examples of things we like, then said - " do it like you would do it in your home". I agree with you, some of this stuff is really nice. But they get all of the credit.

<font color="blue"> but I think you've probably noticed that all these houses have divided-light windows. Divided light windows are another way to keep the "hole in the wall" look from comming out. I personally think that's what you're front facade is missing to give it just the look that fits all the interior design work. </font>

You may have picked up on something here. While our windows are not really divided, we do have some "pop-in" mullions that have not yet been installed. We only ordered 1 vertical divider for each upper member of the double hung windows, so we may not see a dramatic difference. But it may help. We did not want true divided windows because my wife says they are harder to clean (more corners). Thsi way, she can pop out the mullions, clean the window and pop it back in. We'll see how it looks after they get installed. Thanks for the suggestion and kind words.
 
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<font color="blue">We only ordered 1 vertical divider for each upper member of the double hung windows, so we may not see a dramatic difference.</font>

I added a full length vertical member on the first floor windows.....

Don
 

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Cool work, so much fun.
Can you please make the shutters on both sides the color of the foundation + change the front door to the same color?

Can you add a cat on the porch (kidding, kidding, about the cat!)
 
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Bmac,
Take it easy man....... You've got a beautiful house... One thing that you need to rememebr is that you have been involved in this project for quite a while, youre naturally anxious to get it done and moved it.. Its not quite done yet(honestly, it never will be).. The more you are there, the more you will see, that you want to change something. Thats human nature.. Thats also something that makes home ownership fun(and expensive)...

As for the front elevation.. I do suggest the shutters, I like the way they look.. The challenge may be the closeness of the upstairs windows, but the modified pictures Don(I think) added are great... These are things you can do over time as well.. Just get everything on the "docket" done so you can move in, then look at the other stuff next year.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, you should be proud of the house, it looks great.. The owner is ALWAYS more critical than the visitors because he can see flaws(?) that no one else can..
 
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<font color="blue"> Can you please make the shutters on both sides the color of the foundation + change the front door to the same color?</font>

Done!

<font color="blue">Can you add a cat..... </font>

Of course! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif He's a bit small, but he's color coordinated. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Don

PS: As a side note, (for future reference) I have seen 'mullion' bars installed between/inside the two thermopanes of glass for ease of cleaning.
 

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( like your house. I like it white. I like the style and I like the way it looks. Liar
)</font> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Stop it! You're killin' me! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hmmm. I don't know what happened to the picture I "tried" to attach from HOME with my lightning DIAL UP connection. Probably got re-directed to that other White House. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll try it again tonight.

I think you're getting some good ideas here bmac. I agree that the window mullions will be a good addition.

Steve
 
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<font color="blue"> As a side note, (for future reference) I have seen 'mullion' bars installed between/inside the two thermopanes of glass for ease of cleaning. </font>

I think, from a purely esthetic standpoint, nothing beats a true divided light window. To me, the next in line is the kind we ordered where, from the inside where yo are likely to be closer to the window, they kind of look like divided light windowas but not really from the outside where you have 2 panes of glass between you and the mullions. My least favorite is the one with the mullions sandwitched between the glass. Certainly east to clean, but, esthetically, I think they fall a little short. Just my opinion. Oh, and I can't remember for sure, but I don't know if Pella offered the ones with the grill in between the glass panes. Your point is well taken, though Don.

BTW, nice artwork. Thanks.
 
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Hi, Greg.

<font color="blue"> Take it easy man....... </font>

Dude, I'm good! I'm gellin'. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks for the kind words. And you are exactly right, we can do lots of stuff after we move in. No problem with that.

<font color="blue"> Seriously, you should be proud of the house, it looks great. </font>

Maybe I haven't used the correct words before and it sounds like I am really dissatisfied. I'm not. But the result is just different than we originally intended. That doesn't mean its a bad result or that I'm not mostly happy. I'm just not doing backflips. But, then again, backflips at my age could lead to real problems so this is probably a good thing.

To repeat myself, it all goes back to the plan. It was not right from the beginning. However, I think the plan we had was executed masterfully. Some really nice craftsmanship. No problems with that. To put things in some perspective and to maybe better communicate my thoughts on this, my overall satisfaction level for the main floor and upstairs, including the front elevation as it now stands is probably around 90%. That's prety good. With the basement (which so far remains unfinished), my satisfaction level drops to about 75%. This number may go up or down once we complete it.

When everything is done and we have moved in, I will make a list of everything I like and things I would do differently next time.
 
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TB,
Thanks for the rendition. Yup this is the one I would go for. Shutters on the wings, coordinated tot he brick work, and the front door the same color.

This has been so much fun! Course it is not my house, it's Bmacs & posse, so they will do what works for them.

My vote, including the cat, is as you have renederd. Geeze I really hope BMAC puts in a circle drive, talk about $$$, but they are so practical and so pretty. So easy to spend other people's money, yadda yadda yadda.

Thanks for just messin around with the photo's adding a few things, it made the thread fun.

BMAC- we had the same mullions, thye snap in and they are really very very nice. TB's work showing the mullions in really shows what it will be, very very soon. We als had one verticle bar and based ont eh sized windows you have it will be beautiful, jsut beautiful. Funny how you forgot to mention that earlier. Now that we all knwo about the ullions it makes a very big difference on how we are all visualizing your finished home.

I kind of know where you are coming form about houses and material "possesions." I have owned 8 homes, and currently own 4. My main home in Francce, a band new Guest house on the olive farm, a condo in Cannes and a condo in Wisconsin. Don't even ask me how many beds that is.

A hosue is is just a shell, a structure where memoires happen. Of couse it is great to have a great stucture, day to day convenience and coming home to an environmet where you feel comfortable. I myslef am not attached to much to the structures, even the ones I designed and had built. Sure I liked them and enjoyed them, do presently enjoy them, but the structers themselves are not the MOST important thing, it is the memories of what happens inside the structures. I will say that building together brings a couple closer together. It is much different than buing an existing home. Some how when you build a building, at the same time you build your relationship stronger (hopefully) with your spouce. The give and take, the backing off on what you want do to budget concerns and the going overboard for your spouce because one particular item is important to them. So in a way the structure is important because of what you both did together to create it, but once it is created, no matter where you live the memories you will have of the experience will live in your heart forever. And that is why I enjoy builing so much, and have enjoyed your topic. It brings back memories of when my husband and I built homes together.
 

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