New *&%^ EPA Fuel Containers

LBrown59 · Dec 29, 2011

I hqaven't had such proplems since i switched to something like these .

gwdixon · Dec 29, 2011

JoeL4330 said:
I have a bunch of Jegs Jugs, but found that their spout left much to be desired and just pouring out of the jug wasn't practical for me. My solution was to get a siphon barrel pump Amazon.com: Siphon Pump: Everything Else cut it down to the height of the Jugs ...then, I lift it onto the hood of my tractor and can siphon nearly the entire can right into the fuel tank with one or two pumps/pulls ...I made the cut on a slant so as to leave any water in the bottom of the jug. If your fuel tank is lower, you can simply pump instead of siphon ...and you can't beat the price.

Yeah...as I've gotten older lifting those 5 gal containers is not so inviting.

I ended up getting a 12V diesel fuel pump from Harbor Freight. Put a piece of copper pipe on one end of the hose to stand up in the 5 gal container. Works absolutely great and pumps the tank full very quickly.

The price is ridiculous. But I was able to get it for $70 with a coupon last summer.

Diesel Transfer Pump - 12 Volt

Ken Pike · Dec 30, 2011

Bought one of those new-type cans in the US for diesel for my tractor & what a PITA. I disabled the shut-off mechanism in the spout, drilled a hole behind the handle on the top of the can & installed a tubeless tire valve with the core removed. I just remove the cap to let the can vent when fuelling my Kubota.

gwdixon · Dec 30, 2011

Ken Pike said:
Bought one of those new-type cans in the US for diesel for my tractor & what a PITA. I disabled the shut-off mechanism in the spout, drilled a hole behind the handle on the top of the can & installed a tubeless tire valve with the core removed. I just remove the cap to let the can vent when fuelling my Kubota.

Now there is a good idea.

But...how do you get it installed. The rubber ones need to be pulled from the interior and the threaded ones with a nut on the end have to have the nut held from behind.

Do you just thread the valve into the plastic after drilling a slightly undersized hole?

aczlan · Dec 30, 2011

gwdixon said:
Now there is a good idea.
But...how do you get it installed. The rubber ones need to be pulled from the interior and the threaded ones with a nut on the end have to have the nut held from behind.

Fairly simple:
1. Drill new vent hole
2. Fish a wire from the new vent hole to the filler neck
3. Attach the valve to the wire
4. Use the wire to pull the valve into place

Aaron Z

Patches · Dec 30, 2011

I did that on one of the cans I threw away; it still leaked around the filler and if you tried to fuel too quickly(tip the can verticle) it would flood out the handle vent

Tried venting with the schrader valve cap on(just loosened) and that didn't work for me either.

NWOH_Grizz · Dec 30, 2011

My solution was similar to Ken Pike's. Drilled a small hole in the handle and shoved a tapered golf tee in there. Works great.

Bob77064 · Dec 30, 2011

Ken Pike said:
Bought one of those new-type cans in the US for diesel for my tractor & what a PITA. I disabled the shut-off mechanism in the spout, drilled a hole behind the handle on the top of the can & installed a tubeless tire valve with the core removed. I just remove the cap to let the can vent when fuelling my Kubota.

Good man, great idea.

nfowler · Dec 30, 2011

Try the No-Spill gas cans. See

No Spill LLC

So far, they work great for me, in diesel for my tractor and in gas for my boat. No leaks! They have a flexible nozzle extension available if you need it; I don't. The diesel 5-gallon can rests on the hood of my tractor with its nozzle in the tank fill pipe, and I just have to hold the button in until it stops filling (automatic shut-off). Takes just over a minute to empty a 5-gallon can. YMMV.

N. Fowler

Markcuda · Dec 30, 2011

roman · Jan 1, 2012

Markcuda, Are you advocating these contraptions or dissing them?

Nothing I am interested in.

Thank you Congressmen for these wonderful tools we have to dispense the
horrible corn fuel you shove down our throats.

Your Boss,
The Taxpayer

Markcuda · Jan 1, 2012

I have a Uno can and love it.
Does not leak, and very handy to use.
You have to store gas in something, might as well be a good built can.

Ken Pike · Jan 1, 2012

gwdixon - I drill the hole for the valve & thread a home-built valve insertion tool onto the valve (metal valve cap with a length brass chain soldered to it), feed the small chain through the fill spout opening, turn can upside down & fish the chain out the small hole with a piece of bent wire, pull valve up through the hole. Remove core & you're done - looks factory!

gwdixon · Jan 1, 2012

Ken Pike said:
gwdixon - I drill the hole for the valve & thread a home-built valve insertion tool onto the valve (metal valve cap with a length brass chain soldered to it), feed the small chain through the fill spout opening, turn can upside down & fish the chain out the small hole with a piece of bent wire, pull valve up through the hole. Remove core & you're done - looks factory!

Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the update.

BeeferMan · Jan 3, 2012

I used to chuckle when filling up my old 5 gallon plastic fuel can (with the $5.99 sticker still on it) that it cost three times the price of the can to fill it with diesel. Looking at the price of some of these new containers, it appears they've solved that odd situation...

Ruark · Jan 11, 2012

I bought 5 new 5 gallon EPA containers for diesel fuel for my tractor - it holds about 18 gallons. Also a couple of smaller ones for chainsaws, trimmers, etc. They have the little "trigger" you're supposed to hook onto the edge of the opening. How you do that with a small tank, like on a trimmer or lawn mower, I have no idea. Holy crap, don't get me started.

I ended up getting a nice funnel. I unscrew the ^%$ing EPA spout and just pour the fuel down the funnel.

RDrancher · Jan 11, 2012

Gary Fowler said:
GRSTTHEGREAT complained of having to fish out the plastic spouts and I can go one better than that. I quickly found that plastic cans were a big PITA so I looked for and found a 105 gallon fuel tank with electric pump and shutoff nozzle. Last summer I was fueling one of my tractors and the aluminum nozzle on the hose handle valve fell off and into the tank. I couldn't see it as the tank was nearly full so I left it in till I got the fuel down to about 1/4 tank. I fished around for a while with wire coat hangers to no avail, then I found a couple of bamboo plant stakes and using them managed to roll it around to where I could push in one stick to stand it up, then pushed in the other and it was exactly fit to wedge into the nozzle. Then just lifted it out. I fixed that problem with it then by putting a self-tapping screw thru the valve socket and into the nozzle. I have never seen one of those end nozzles fall off like that before but they are just swaged into the socket of the handle valve. I felt lucky that it only took me about 5 minutes to fish it out and the tank wasnt that big so it was not too hard to see down inside it.

Never even imagined THAT happening! I'll be keeping an eye on mine from now on.

JRobyn · Jan 12, 2012

On a very peripherally related topic (no thread hijacking here;-) I have had unbelievably excellent customer service from Blitz. I had one of their steel "jerry" cans and after several years (admitedly stored outside), parts of the INSIDE of the can began rusting. I sent Blitz an e-mail asking if there wasn't supposed to be some sort of galvanizing or other rust prevention on the inside of their cans. As old as my can was, they said they couldn't be certain exactly what sort of treatment the inside may have had, so they sent me a brand new can (with the EPA spout;-), absolutely no charge! I was astonished.