Neighbor is Not Happy With Me

[Podunkadunk]

Wonder how you can get your property designated as a "no fly zone"? Be nice to be able to do that. I live between two military bases and do have a few flybys. They usually aren't dropping pesticides, though.
David from jax

Between Jax and Mayport or between Jax and the old Cecil Field? P-3's do the route between Jax and Cecil regularly (touch-n-goes). Jax and Mayport, not so much, but occasionally.

Your biggest worry should be TFOA (things falling off aircraft) or fuel dumping. Neither happen often, but the dumping of fuel does happen when you've got a heavy load and need to land right away...minimum altitude is 6k'. Hey, it's great mosquito control

JP-5,,,is well,,,JP-5 and it kills %$#@ out of them skeeters,,,. Haha.

Podunk

 

[WTA]

I did call the sherriff when that pilot came off the cotton, went over the highway and back down to about 30 feet right over my property once with his sprayers still going. That was the day my wheat all got killed. The sheriff asked if I got his tail numbers and I told him no. I was too busy jumping off my tractor and running for cover before I got sprayed. I didn't know what he had in those tanks and regardless didn't want it on me. I told them everything that happened and where they were spraying but nothing ever happened.

A no fly zone over my place would probably be a good idea.
My alfalfa is organicly grown for the time being. Maybe I could get that organic certification and put no fly zone signes around the property. Buzzing my ground knowing I have that shooting range isn't really smart either. It's plainly marked from the ground and air.

I grew up on navy and Marine bases and spent most of my adult life on them also. I know all about getting buzzed and pilots dumping fuel. Va beach was the worst. We had B1's, phantoms, A-6's and F-14's all the time about 100 feet over our roof. After living on a carrier for several years it didn't bother me. It was nowhere near the noise we made at Letterkenny either. At that place we'd rattle windows 20 miles away sometimes. I just don't like my fields or my self and animals getting sprayed with chemicals. I got a good enough dose of stuff like that in the service and would not like to add to it now.

The company that ownes the crop dusters changed last year I found out. I now buy my chemicals from the new one. At least I know who to complain to if it ever happens again.

 

[Tororider]

Here's what I would do.

Invite he and his wife over for dinner, be sociable, if he still is crachety, you have done your part.

Plant trees or put up a fence if YOU want, and be sociable by waving whatever.

There is no rule saying that neighbors have to be friends, it would be easier, but it doesn't always happen that way.

 

[TimC]

Did you know that there are such things as "view rights"?

My family owns 1.5 Acres with ~500 feet of beach front on the ocean in Wells Beach, ME. The house has been there since the 1890s, and was the first in the area, hence the huge lot by NE beach town standards. Overtime, houses were built and expanded all around and behind the property, to the point that there were no yards. The neighbors behind the house came over with an attorney and a fancy "View rights" agreement, trying to get us to sign away the ability to build any new structures on the property, and trying to get us to sign the agreement, for very little compensation, something like $5000.

Now, the house is being torn down and replaced due to the maintenance getting out of hand. The new home is very similar architecturally, but a bit larger... And the neighbors are not happy either. They honestly believe that the view they have of the ocean across our property is something they have a "right" to, even though we refused to sign the agreement.

On our new 6.5 acres, the only things we are taking into conscideration when building and placing our house on our lot are where we want it and where the property setbacks force us to be. If the neighbors don't like it, they should have bought the property instead....

 

[sandman2234]

Podunk,
Between Jax and Cecil. Most don't bother us, but at certain times, it seems the approach changes, which is probably due to the wind direction. Only the largest of the planes even get noticed.
My new neighbor has stated several times that he is going to put privacy fence up around his property. Fine for the back and side yards, but if he puts one up in the front yard, I will be talking to the city about it, due to "view laws". There are laws against fences over a certain height in the front yard here, just for that reason. I don't want my view blocked dispite not owning that property. I might let him get away with bringing the fence up as far as the side of my house without problems, but if it goes in front of mine, I will protest. Money talks in this town, so I may not have the final word, but I will be heard. The good part about it is, if he fences it, it will make it easier to stop the flow of water coming from his property. His house is about 30 feet behind mine, right next to my garage.
David from jax

 

[riptides]

Did you know that there are such things as "view rights"?

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In my part of the commonwealth... they are called visual easements. And people can get bucks and tax relief for them.

-Mike Z.

 

[SLOBuds]

Did you know that there are such things as "view rights"?

Big time ... in my beautiful state of California, of course!

I might have this wrong, but I think that in some localities of California you have view rights even if no one signed up for them. Meaning that you have obligations that are based in local law.

It's not actually another one of those 'California Thing' items though. These places are usually where homes are stacked next to each other and have $ million dollar views. Anyone who wants to change the footprint of his house will need to jump though hoops to get it done. Some places make you stake out the new footprint which includes staking up to the intended new elevation of the building, and attaching eye-catching flags which emphasize the new layout.

Then you do get into the California Thing where some poor soul lives in one of these communities but his house does not impact anyone. The house is not anywhere near anyone. But he has it staked up all the same.

The law is the law!

 

[Champy]

I believe the easiest way to handle this neighbor problem is to have your wife invite his wife over for coffee, etc.... Once the ladies become friends, this guy's life will be a living nightmare if he pulls another stunt like that.....his wife will tear him up!


Each of us works hard to make our "house" into a home. And a group of homes becomes a neighborhood of friends. Sooner or later this guy and his wife will get lonely having the only "house" in the neighborhood! Be true to yourself; be honorable; and live guilt free in your dealings with others.


"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson


THE FOUR AGREEMENTS

BE IMPECCABLE WITH YOUR WORD - Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

DONT TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY - Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you wont be the victim of needless suffering.

DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS - Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others a clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.

ALWAYS DO YOUR BEST - Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstances, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.

- from The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz

 

[Rara Avis]

I believe the easiest way to handle this neighbor problem is to have your wife invite his wife over for coffee, etc.... Once the ladies become friends, this guy's life will be a living nightmare if he pulls another stunt like that.....his wife will tear him up!


Each of us works hard to make our "house" into a home. And a group of homes becomes a neighborhood of friends. Sooner or later this guy and his wife will get lonely having the only "house" in the neighborhood! Be true to yourself; be honorable; and live guilt free in your dealings with others.


"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson


THE FOUR AGREEMENTS

BE IMPECCABLE WITH YOUR WORD - Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

DONT TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY - Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you wont be the victim of needless suffering.

DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS - Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others a clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.

ALWAYS DO YOUR BEST - Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstances, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.

- from The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz

Or use SUN TZU "THE ART OF WAR"...
Sonshi.com's Original Sun Tzu The Art of War Translation

 

[srjones]

Big time ... in my beautiful state of California, of course!

I might have this wrong, but I think that in some localities of California you have view rights even if no one signed up for them. Meaning that you have obligations that are based in local law.

It's not actually another one of those 'California Thing' items though.
The law is the law!

Actually, I think it is a 'California Thing' but you know the way that stuff spreads. California has a spite fence law and the courts ruled that a row of trees could even be considered a spite fence. Thankfully that crazyness hasn't crept up the coast to Oregon yet. However, Oregon is fairly unique in many ways (can't pump your own gas, the bottle bill, property and income tax but NO sales tax, the kicker check, all vote by mail, and a bunch of other things.

But then again, we don't have TSC or In-N-Out franchises.

I've got my own bad neighbor story, but I'll save that for another time. Hopefully the daily reminders will be soon erased with a few hundred hybrid poplars planted this winter while the cedars make it to 15' high.