Need help pt 180 or 422

[cqaigy2]

i forgot! I live in Dayton, pa around Kittanning

Smilindave,

You could fill in your location info in your profile, that way, if you forget where you live, you'll be able to just log on to this forum and look at your profile from just about anywhere in the world.

 

[BobRip]

Barry, I hope you get well soon and go back to a PT. We all make mistakes, but not having a PT does not have to be one of them. I sold my Kubotoa when I got my PT and have never regretted it.

 

[Barryh]

Hey BarryH -

You are a great contributor. Don't go away! I'm pretty sure that this PT crowd understands really well about choosing an "unpopular" machine if it fits your needs. We haven't had many members move away from a PT and continue to post here. The perspective you bring helps highlight the strengths and weaknesses, or just plain DIFFERENCES between a PT and a good "conventional" tractor.

I've got a suspicion that you may be a PT owner again someday, even if it's as a backup to your other tractor.

Gravy

Hmmm well thanks for the kind words Mr. Gravy,

Yeah.. I know it may be a little unorthodox to post here but that’s just me. I'm in a unique position I cut my teeth on a PT. So when I read a post on another brand forum trashing the PT. I get the urge to jump in and confront and set someone straight. The same goes for my orange baby, but as we all know that never solves anything. Everyone thinks what they own is the best and only way to go.

There are many differences between the two and, I could point them out very easily but, I wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers. Like you said, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Conventional is the right word for the Kubota. The PT defiantly being the more unique and versatile of the two.

Am I sorry I bought the BX?? Not at all it´s a well-built sturdy tractor. I just wish I could afford to have two and, a place to store them.

Your right, you may see me back on a PT one day but, it would have to be a few years down the road, seeing as the wife laid down the law and doesn't want me buying any more tractors. Timing, timing, timing

Things that draw me back to check in on this forum.

1. I like you guys (really) even Bob Rip. I don't see to much flaming or bickering here people are civil.

2. The type of mindset can do thinkers here, which I consider myself to be of some degree.

I like the idea of making some of my own attachments for different tasks. When I bought the BX. I bought it used so I didn't have to worry about doing modifications and voiding warranties.

My thinking was it might be cool to have a PT plate welded on, for a make shift quick attach of some sort to the front end.

It´s now more likely I will experiment with attaching a hitch to the front bucket like I did with my 180. At least for now and, be able to use some made up attachment ideas I have. Well that´s my story and I'm sticking to it.

Now someone needs to help the new guy with his which PT decision

 

[Barryh]

Barry, I hope you get well soon and go back to a PT. We all make mistakes, but not having a PT does not have to be one of them. I sold my Kubotoa when I got my PT and have never regretted it.

Bob whats a Kubotoa ??

 

[J_J]

What so you call someone that has a PT-1445, a Kubota B9200, and a Ford 8N, and a Dixie Chopper. Lucky. Not really, I did lawn service/landscaping for about 20 years. What do I use the most, the 1445 or course.

 

[Barryh]

What so you call someone that has a PT-1445, a Kubota B9200, and a Ford 8N, and a Dixie Chopper. Lucky. Not really, I did lawn service/landscaping for about 20 years. What do I use the most, the 1445 or course.

Yeah, in spite of all the hard work you've had to deal with. (Keeps you young) I would consider you very lucky. I would love to have your experience and know how using all sorts of different industrial equipment.

I'm sure you've forgotten more than I will ever know about tractors, as I don't use my tractors for business or as a job. I need more property, which may happen one day. Then I could justify a PT along with my Kubota.

I just have to wait until the dust settles for a while to get another one. I wonder how many others here have other tractors on the side along with their beloved PT's.

 

[KentT]

I just have to wait until the dust settles for a while to get another one. I wonder how many others here have other tractors on the side along with their beloved PT's.

Do garden tractors count? I have two that I use around the house in MA (tilliing, mowing lawn, snowblowing, etc.) while I have the PT in TN for ongoing lot clearing and maintenance in preparation for building in a few years...

I plan to keep them all... Though, I'll be all too happy to sell my snowblower and snow cab when I retire and move south...

 

[Barryh]

Do garden tractors count? I have two that I use around the house in MA (tilliing, mowing lawn, snowblowing, etc.) while I have the PT in TN for ongoing lot clearing and maintenance in preparation for building in a few years...

I plan to keep them all... Though, I'll be all too happy to sell my snowblower and snow cab when I retire and move south...

Can't see why they wouldn't count. A tractor is a tractor in my opinion. Some more capable then others.

Beats me though, how you can stand to be away from your main thoroughbred for so long. Guess we do what we have to do sometimes. One things for sure just looking at that beautiful property layout you have. Your seat time must that much better when you finally do get to fire it up.

 

[KentT]

Beats me though, how you can stand to be away from your main thoroughbred for so long. Guess we do what we have to do sometimes. One things for sure just looking at that beautiful property layout you have. Your seat time must that much better when you finally do get to fire it up.

Waiting is tough, between trips, for sure... makes for a loooooonnnnnng winter!

I'm going back down in 3 weeks to plant some fruit trees, white pines for privacy screen, etc. Hopefully one of my friends will have gotten my new wheel motors installed by then -- if not, I may end up working on the PT all week, instead of working with the PT... Or, if not, hauling it 900 miles back up here so I can do the install myself this summer. With $3-plus gasoline, I would look forward to trailering it 900 miles! He was supposed to start the project about a month ago, so it would be done and ready for me to test drive, but got called for jury duty instead which has taken all his time...

 

[Barryh]

Waiting is tough, between trips, for sure... makes for a loooooonnnnnng winter!

I'm going back down in 3 weeks to plant some fruit trees, white pines for privacy screen, etc. Hopefully one of my friends will have gotten my new wheel motors installed by then -- if not, I may end up working on the PT all week, instead of working with the PT... Or, if not, hauling it 900 miles back up here so I can do the install myself this summer. With $3-plus gasoline, I would look forward to trailering it 900 miles! He was supposed to start the project about a month ago, so it would be done and ready for me to test drive, but got called for jury duty instead which has taken all his time...

Yeah , that's pretty rough. Well if you do end up getting in some quality seat time maybe you can take some fresh pictures of the progress and the PT in action. If it turns out you replace wheel motors. I'm sure the guys on here would like some shots of that for future reference. Good luck.

 

[RegL]

Waiting is tough, between trips, for sure... makes for a loooooonnnnnng winter!

I'm going back down in 3 weeks to plant some fruit trees, white pines for privacy screen, etc. Hopefully one of my friends will have gotten my new wheel motors installed by then -- if not, I may end up working on the PT all week, instead of working with the PT... Or, if not, hauling it 900 miles back up here so I can do the install myself this summer. With $3-plus gasoline, I would look forward to trailering it 900 miles! He was supposed to start the project about a month ago, so it would be done and ready for me to test drive, but got called for jury duty instead which has taken all his time...

I replaced one wheel motor and I think it took no more than an hour. Even if your changing all four, I don't think you will spend more than a day. Are you doing an upgrade? I assume all the motors are not bad. You probably already explained and I missed it. If so I apologize.

 

[KentT]

I replaced one wheel motor and I think it took no more than an hour. Even if your changing all four, I don't think you will spend more than a day. Are you doing an upgrade? I assume all the motors are not bad. You probably already explained and I missed it. If so I apologize.

Yep, putting on four new 21.7ci CharLynn S series (with HD seals and low-speed valving). There's some grinding needed to get them to go back into the frame/tub far enough to slide them in. They're round, not rectangular, and their diameter is 3/8" more than the current motors width...

Should give me roughly twice the torque (i.e. power) and slightly more than half the speed of the White RS wheel motors currently on it...

 

[MossRoad]

Bob whats a Kubotoa ??

Wasn't Kubotoa a large volcano that errupted back in the 1880s?

 

[Barryh]

Wasn't Kubotoa a large volcano that errupted back in the 1880s?

Krakatau erupted in 1883.

 

[BobRip]

Bob whats a Kubotoa ??

It's kinda like a Power Trac, but the attachments are difficult to change and have to be modified to fit the tractor, or you have to modify the tractor, or you let them sit and you growl when you see the useless attachment. Also the attachments are all on the wrong end of the tractor and hard to watch when you are actually using them. It's a pretty obsolete device, but surprisingly still sold to some people for some reason.

 

[MossRoad]

Krakatau erupted in 1883.

Aaannd... the lava was orange!

 

[Barryh]

It's kinda like a Power Trac, but the attachments are difficult to change and have to be modified to fit the tractor, or you have to modify the tractor, or you let them sit and you growl when you see the useless attachment. Also the attachments are all on the wrong end of the tractor and hard to watch when you are actually using them. It's a pretty obsolete device, but surprisingly still sold to some people for some reason.

Glad I have a Kubota and not a Kubotoa then, sounds kinda useless.

 

[Barryh]

Aaannd... the lava was orange!

 

[BobRip]

Glad I have a Kubota and not a Kubotoa then, sounds kinda useless.

Yes, you are fortunate. Mine was a gray market. Actaully it ran well and did it's stuff and had a lot of low speed power. It had two ranges on the gears and you could engage both low speeds ranges at the same time. I miss that low speed torque. Great for tree climbing.

 

[Barryh]

Yes, you are fortunate. Mine was a gray market. Actaully it ran well and did it's stuff and had a lot of low speed power. It had two ranges on the gears and you could engage both low speeds ranges at the same time. I miss that low speed torque. Great for tree climbing.

How were the parts availability for it?