need help designing a homemade loader

[farm boy00]

Have you looked through the sites found on Google images to see how they mounted their loaders?

Bruce

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[bcp]

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farm king 990 loader

 

[farm boy00]

farm king 990 loader

This is a different tractor. It's a homelite Jacobson. But thanks it's still a help. I couldn't find anything but i was searching homemade loader

 

[farm boy00]

Well i know allot of you advice upgrade the front end. But to me and my father (doing all the welding with 40+ years of tractor experience) we are not going to upgrade the front end. We ain't going to make this a huge loader. We know we will be lucky if it will not be able to handle thousands of pounds. Our Max lifting will be less then #500. We are going too use one of our old high jackers as the uprights for mounting the loader and the forks for loader forks

 

[jaotguy]

No Johnny loader will ever be bought around here.. JUNK JUNK .....I would image it would have a Stronger frame and axle then a lowes tractor

I said "look at" for ideas , not "buy" ..... your front axle may be HD but the wheel spindles won't take 500 lbs .....

you asked for suggestions , you got 'em from several members that have or built their own ...
it is advice , you are welcome to use it or not , your decision ....with no pressure from any member

it is your tractor , project and your $$$$$

 

[BHD]

I know you do not need any plans, because you know how to build it, Yes it is a different tractor,

and besides I did sketch you out a plan, but apparently don't think it is good enough, for your use,

but look at this, Michael's Tractors (Simplicity and Allis Chalmers Garden Tractors) - AC (1st/2nd) L10, L12, L112 Loader References much the same Idea I sketched for you,

 

[farm boy00]

I know you do not need any plans, because you know how to build it, Yes it is a different tractor,

and besides I did sketch you out a plan, but apparently don't think it is good enough, for your use,

but look at this, Michael's Tractors (Simplicity and Allis Chalmers Garden Tractors) - AC (1st/2nd) L10, L12, L112 Loader References much the same Idea I sketched for you,

That's petty much what we are going to build is your plan that you stretched

 

[farm boy00]

I said "look at" for ideas , not "buy" ..... your front axle may be HD but the wheel spindles won't take 500 lbs .....

you asked for suggestions , you got 'em from several members that have or built their own ...
it is advice , you are welcome to use it or not , your decision ....with no pressure from any member

it is your tractor , project and your $$$$$

I'm sorry that i might have seemed rashed or anything about this. I didn't mean to but that's usually how my text sounds like.

I do appreciate your suggestion but the Johnny loader is a no for here on our farm. We don't really like those style

 

[Fawken]

How much is a used 20hp Chinese tractor with a loader?

 

[farm boy00]

How much is a used 20hp Chinese tractor with a loader?

$5,000+

Can find old kabota tractors for about $3500-$4500 but that is a half worn out with no loader

This tractor was $250with a rusted out deck and a push mower. I have priced everything for a loader for $500-600

 

[Leejohn]

What kind of hyd cyls are you looking at?

 

[farm boy00]

What kind of hyd cyls are you looking at?

for this I'm looking at lifting with 1
2-1"×36" or 48"

Then the tilt. There is a 2"×24" cylinder with the unit i want

 

[farm boy00]

That's what I'm looking at

12 VDC Hydraulic System

12 VDC Hydraulic System

 

[Leejohn]

You better grab that deal. The cyls would be real close to that price. That stone pump is a good one. I used them on my pontoon trailers when I was in Rockton, Ill.

 

[BHD]

I see you posted on another thread wanting some more pictures,

but one thing that can save one a lot of problems is to make a mock up of one side of the loader using the real cylinders, laying out on it side using either wood or cardboard to represent the loader frame and the loader arms, to see if the geometry of the swing is correct, IF you use actual size pieces, one will be able to see if things are going to clear and not pinch, Fittings clear, (we had one old commercial loader, when raised nearly all the way up, the fitting would hit the frame , snap it off and dump the oil and drop the load), some times the clearance on a mounting ear will need some more clearance, etc.

and to see if the lift and arc is what you want, moving a mount a few 1/8's of an can make a lot of difference some times.

one thing I thought was innovative was on the cad loader, https://www.cadplans.com/cadloaders/cadloaderlt-model-507.html the 507 model with single arm, for a law type tractor, (first the garden tractor is so small a single arm should be more than enough to handle the load, and second I have enough problem getting on and off of a lawn tractor the way it is alone blocking both sides with more obstacles, and one less cylinder to buy and plumb.

 

[BHD]

40+ pages of lawn tractor loader pictures, about 10 pictures, a page Gallery - Category: Customers Pics: Front End Loaders

 

[farm boy00]

40+ pages of lawn tractor loader pictures, about 10 pictures, a page Gallery - Category: Customers Pics: Front End Loaders

I'm seeing smaller tractors on that then mine with bigger loader on the front then what i plan on building. From what you guys make it sound most of those tractors should have broken a frame or something

 

[farm boy00]

I see you posted on another thread wanting some more pictures,

but one thing that can save one a lot of problems is to make a mock up of one side of the loader using the real cylinders, laying out on it side using either wood or cardboard to represent the loader frame and the loader arms, to see if the geometry of the swing is correct, IF you use actual size pieces, one will be able to see if things are going to clear and not pinch, Fittings clear, (we had one old commercial loader, when raised nearly all the way up, the fitting would hit the frame , snap it off and dump the oil and drop the load), some times the clearance on a mounting ear will need some more clearance, etc.

and to see if the lift and arc is what you want, moving a mount a few 1/8's of an can make a lot of difference some times.

one thing I thought was innovative was on the cad loader, https://www.cadplans.com/cadloaders/cadloaderlt-model-507.html the 507 model with single arm, for a law type tractor, (first the garden tractor is so small a single arm should be more than enough to handle the load, and second I have enough problem getting on and off of a lawn tractor the way it is alone blocking both sides with more obstacles, and one less cylinder to buy and plumb.

I'm only looking for not even double that much lift. So putting a arm on the other side would increase the lift to what i need right??

 

[farm boy00]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/127689-scratch-homemade-loader-3.html

That's what my build is kinda based off and i know my frame is as heavy