Need advice for a new Tractor:)

/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #21  
I have a couple of Grasshopper's for mowing. They work great for mowing when it is too soft for a 50 hp tractor. What dedicated mower did you pick to compliment your tractor? Did you stay with diesel? It does make it nice to use the same fuel.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a couple of Grasshopper's for mowing. They work great for mowing when it is too soft for a 50 hp tractor. What dedicated mower did you pick to compliment your tractor? Did you stay with diesel? It does make it nice to use the same fuel. )</font>

When we buy I will have the Diesel tractor sub cut or cut, do the mowing and other things listed. I will still have a small push mower for around tree's and next to the house, ditches and other areas.

KC
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #23  
Cool! Good luck! It's almost hard to go wrong with the brand you buy as long as you have a good dealer. Just figure out what size suits your needs best. With push mowers for the basic "trim" work, it's not too bad at all to keep up with gas. The new really powerful dedicated mowers with high hp really suck down the gas. It's a drag to have a half a dozen or so 5 gallon gas cans around. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

You'll love your new diesel tractor. I've found that the same hp diesel uses about half of the fuel as gas powered. It may not sound like much, but over the years it adds up in cost besides the trouble.
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #24  
That is a good way to go if price is no object but most try to get a tractor to do all the jobs one needs, I think Bob does a great job of being extremely objective in his post and for some reason many try to beat up on him. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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It didn't look to me that Shoppintractor was beating up on Bob. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif


RedDog
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #26  
crown; I've gotten the same idea of beating on Bob. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif He does a very nice job of trying to show all the angles, and he covers the bases well. We all should welcome his objective views. Keep up the good work Bob. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #27  
<font color="blue">That is a good way to go if price is no object but most try to get a tractor to do all the jobs one needs, </font>

MMM are expensive. $2000 plus. That money could be put towards a riding mower. It's a nice convenience factor to be able to jump from one machine to the other -or- with two people both machines can be working at the same time. A 3 point rear finish mower can be added at a later date.

BTW...Bob looks fine to me. Not beat up in the least. Crisp Hawaiian shirt and all. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No sense hijacking this thread.

Don
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #28  
crown & John . . . what can I say, I'm all weepy eyed with the lovely sentiment and support.

From time to time I do feel that I get beaten up. What can I say, I take stands and simply don't like some machines. I've got a Kubota, but I think the Kubota L2800 is a crummy machine and believe people can often a better machine at a better price by switching brands. I've got a New Holland, but am not a big fan of the TC30, for totally different reasons. I think Kioti makes some great machines, but I believe the CK25 is a dog for reasons I've outlined in detail. Deere makes some amazingly well designed machines but I sort of lump the 790 into the same group as the TC30; not bad, but I'm not a big fan of it. I'm very critical of loader designs for many brands, especially the loaders that stick up well above the hood level of the tractor because they block the view of the work . . . I'm also critical of bucket design, bucket size, and lately have been on a real tirade against the inflated capacity numbers that some manufacturers use when they only post their "pivot point" capacities on their FELs (instead of 500mm forward) or post "ball eye" capacities for their 3pt hitches (instead of 24" behind).

Show me any tractor, even the units on my property, I have picked them apart and criticized the parts that should be improved. I've also complimented just as many tractors, and often criticize and compliment the same machine for different reasons. One thing I know is I am not a blind loyalist to any, so I can pretty much say I can just about offend everyone. I guess I have not offended "Johnday" or "crown" (yet). So (until then) thanks for the kind words.


BUT DARE I POINT OUT, we are WAAAAY off topic here.

I can easliy understand Dargo having 2 "Grasshoppers" for mowing, he also has a 50hp tractor with cab, and something like 160 acres, and dare I say he has a liberal budget when it comes to toy shopping. But in this particular case, we have a guy with 2 + 3 acres, who will be moving to the 3 acre property. There is no real reason to have 2 machines for 3 acres when 1 machine will do the job. First, there will only be 1 engine to maintain, which means maintainence costs will NOT double. Second, a tractor like a Sub-CUT, while it may not be the first choice of all people, is a good choice for his situation, and is typically priced WITH the mower deck included. With the same size mower deck it will out mow a small frame CUT and it will operate every implement he wants to operate . . . on top of that it will fit inside his budget. Now I suppose he could go as large as the B7610, and I really like that tractor and it would be soft on the lawn and probably would not be too big some of the time and would never be too small either, but it would top out the budget and leave no money left over to pay for the tiller, PHD or snowblower that he'd like to buy especially since he'd have to add costs for a mower deck (MMM or RFM).

Sure, he could buy a $3000 garden tractor to mow the lawn or a $6000 ZTR, but in either case he'd be hard pressed to get tractor/FEL and implements and stay in budget, and not deal with multiple fuel storage, multiple maintainence costs, etc etc



And Don . . . FWIW, today I'm wearing yarn dyed madras (but still full of color) instead of Hawaiian. . . I guess I need to pick up my laundry on my way home tonight!
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #29  
You can can the mid mount mower and buy a craftsman tractor for about 1000 bucks. Then you have two machines maybe the wife can cut the lawn while you do the tractor work.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You can can the mid mount mower and buy a craftsman tractor for about 1000 bucks. Then you have two machines maybe the wife can cut the lawn while you do the tractor work. )</font>


A sub-CUT is often priced with the mower deck included and very likely still have $ left over to buy some implements. If he goes to a CUT, he could get a good quality RFM for about $1000. Either way, he would not have to maintain 2 engines, he would not incure double fuel storage, double tractor storage issues, double engine maintainence costs, etc. And I'd suggest that a $1000 RFM would outlast a $1000 lawn tractor with far less maintainence. Now a $3000 quality garden tractor would probably have a larger deck than the $1000 L.T., would likely last longer with less maintainence issues since they are not made of low quality stamped parts, etc. But I'd still prefer a $2000 mid-mount mower under the belly of my tractor on a small property, but that is just my preference.
 
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I mow 2 arces with my craftmans tractor. I've had it for about 6 year's. No problems to report as of yet, other then a new battery. It's a 16.5 Kolher moter. I purchased for 1100,00. When I'm using my ck30 the wife is mowing the lawn, which gets the job done faster. Also puts the wife to work /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. My choice would be a small frame cut with either MMM or a pull behind mower; or the Craftsman lawn tractor. Save the money of the MMM.

Regards
Glen
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #32  
I find having the riding mower to pull a small trailer around the yard is quite an asset. While a tractor can be used for the loader work...moving compost, dirt..etc. Simultaneously the lawn mower and trailer transports plants, tools etc.

Don
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #33  
Don,
I agree it would be nice to have two machines if your property dictated but we are talking 2-3 acres and with that size property probably storage of the additional machine would be an issue it would be with me. I was not saying your idea was bad but I do not think in the posters instance it was the most prudent way to go. You are a very valuable member with very good insight, I was not attacking you, but rather just stating my opinion which happened to agree with Bob.
 
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Storage room is an issue for us as well. The boss said no to tractors so one will have to do all the jobs listed.

On another point. I don't plan on buying tiller, PHD or seeder but I can get them for use when I need them at no/minimum charge from a local dealer. So the tractor would need to be able to handle those attachments.

KC
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Don,
I agree it would be nice to have two machines if your property dictated but we are talking 2-3 acres and with that size property probably storage of the additional machine would be an issue it would be with me. I was not saying your idea was bad but I do not think in the posters instance it was the most prudent way to go. You are a very valuable member with very good insight, I was not attacking you, but rather just stating my opinion which happened to agree with Bob. )</font>
 
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Gee, we can all proselytize endlessly, but I think kcook has a pretty good handle on his own needs It sounds to me that his idea of a diesel tractor in addition to his existing push mowers sounds like a well thought out judicious decision by an erudite individual.

There must be a reason that lawn tractors have seen a precipitous drop in sales as of late. It seems that actual usefullness of a piece of equipment is now being weighed more heavily than how it looks. Lawn tractors were spawned by the desires of people needing a lawn mower, but wanting the looks of a tractor. The majority of people now are becoming more interested in productive capability than looks.

Consumers now are more often buying the tool to fit their needs, an actual mowing machine; i.e. a ZTR, for mowing rather than a miniature version of a tractor that really excels at nothing. The basic lawn tractor is too small and weak to do any heavy work, doesn't have a PTO, doesn't have a 3 pt. hitch, and yet it is poorly designed to meet the needs of mowing because the manufacturers try to look like a tractor so it will sell. The venerable lawn tractor is in that gap where it isn't a tractor, and it isn't designed to be a proficient mowing machine. Sorry, but who is kidding who here? They still will sell, but I believe their sales numbers will continue to drop as consumers buy for their needs, rather than for looks.
So, based on actual needs, kcook seems to be certainly on the right track in my opinion.
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #36  
kcook,
Sorry your post got off topic, good luck with your purchase I'm sure your going to enjoy your machine whichever one you choose, try all brands and pick the one you like the best with a dealer you feel comfortable with. We do a great job of spending others money. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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<font color="blue">You are a very valuable member with very good insight, </font>

Thanks Crown....your thoughts are appreciated.

I see Brent/Dargo has posted....I feel a closed thread coming on. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Wouldn't it be interesting if we had to limit the verbosity to 100 words or less per post to save on bandwidth (the bandwidth that's graciously provided to us free of charge). /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Good luck kcook with the tractor buying process......

Don
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I see Brent/Dargo has posted....I feel a closed thread coming on. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif )</font>

For commenting that the original poster seems to have a good grasp on what he needs?! I can't imagine what has ruffled your feathers. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I'll just dismiss your post as you not grabbing your dictionary to understand what is written. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I've never seen a thread closed for complimenting a person.
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:) #39  
I bought the Huskie 25HP riding mower (TSC) 2 weeks before the DK for the light mowing but more important to keep the wife involved in the outside "chores". She loves it and it keeps me in the "BIG SEAT". Gotta love it, it was worth the extra $2000..........LOL /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
/ Need advice for a new Tractor:)
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Guys there is not enough money for two tractor or the storage space for two so I will be getting one to do it all. I will still have a small hand mower but no other riding tractor.

I do like all the advice. Any other comments or suggestions.

Thanks

KC
 

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