Natural gas?

[kenmac]

I'll need to check into that. The impression I got was that I needed to heat the home with gas, thus my line of thinking of dual fuel, and I never thought of water a primary source of heat unless it's a boiler or geo.

My primary reason for gas was for two reasons, gas tankless, gas stove (wife seems on intent on gas top and perhaps convection oven) and possible converting a wood fireplace to gas fireplace.

I'll need to check with the gas company on that. Plenty of time at this point though.

At first, I asked if the gas dryer would be ok ,and they said no, that wasn't a large enough load for them to install the line at N/C . I asked about a WH and they said that would work.
They gave me $300 toward the tankless which isn't much on a tankless but it beat zero .

 

[Torvy]

I didn't read every post (and I am based in Canada) I thought most of the US is moving towards banning the continued use of gas? <<California, New York, Massachusetts, Colorado, Oregon, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, and Rhode Island, Washington State and Vermont, etc.. can up after quick internet search>> with changes and gas limits coming quicker every year it seems.

In our national newspapers we are reading every day now that almost 20% of the natural gas used in the US has historically come from Canada but is no longer wanted so being tariff heavily and new pipe lines / pipeline maintenance requests being turned down. This has led to a large Federal push in Canada for fast track approvals and government funding of infrastructure to instead send this gas east to europe and west to asia. just a few weeks ago a new national law was passed here to allow fast tracking of these projects preventing protesters and provinces from stalling these plans to ship east / west versus south. Signed / sealed and delivered Bills C-5 (One Canadian Economy Act), Bill 15 (Infrastructure Projects Act), and Bill 5, aim to fast-track and fund infrastructure and resource projects to get gas, oil, lumber, steel, aluminum, and wood products as these exports to US is causing a lot of hate in Washington.

Would this not be a concern going forward????

personally i love our gas heating and cooking appliances. (wife is professional chef capable and this spring we ran a second 1" line to the house to feed a new 300,000 btu gas stove) This spring we doubled the pipe size to our place from the main line as our prices are dropping now that US doesn't want it anymore.



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Your chart shows the opposite. Most of the states are pushing back on limiting gas use. Only our far-left states try to limit human progress.

If they truly wanted to go green, they would fast track the use of nuclear reactors thus building up enough clean power to actually meet future demands. Then, and only then, could you reasonably try to phase out coal, oil and gas electricity production.

Until you have the clean electricity production, it's rather silly to prohibit the local use of clean, efficient NG or LP gas heat and heat related appliances.

When the US was using Canadian NG, it is largely due logistics. It is closer for some states (NE) to import from Canada than from PA or other gas-rich states. The US has vast NG reserves (about 8x those of Canada).

The 'problem' with exporting NG is that pipelines are by far the most effective way to transport it. Selling to Europe or Asia becomes cost prohibitive in many cases.

 

[dnw64]

Our NJ house came with Nat Gas at the road, but no service. I wanted to put in a standby generator, and since there was gas at the street and no existing LP tank I put in an inquiry.

Even though I told them that ATM I only plan to hook up a standby genset, they would put the gas in for free-to-me and $4k-to-them... I said go for it, but make sure the system is set for heat, as the 20 year old oil furnace will be being replaced with gas in the next 5-10 years.

Side note: the house came with an almost brand new super-fancy GE electric (duh...) range. Our current main house has separate gas (LP) cooktop and electric convection oven. We love the gas cooktop, so I was considering replacing the range with a dual fuel model. However, after reading a lot of reviews about the induction cooktops I decided we're going to stick with the one that's there for now. It's a slide in, so easy enough to change out if we decide we don't like it. All our cookware is ferrous anyway, so no changes needed there.

 

[Dftodd]

I didn't read every post (and I am based in Canada) I thought most of the US is moving towards banning the continued use of gas? <<California, New York, Massachusetts, Colorado, Oregon, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, and Rhode Island, Washington State and Vermont, etc.. can up after quick internet search>> with changes and gas limits coming quicker every year it seems.

In our national newspapers we are reading every day now that almost 20% of the natural gas used in the US has historically come from Canada but is no longer wanted so being tariff heavily and new pipe lines / pipeline maintenance requests being turned down. This has led to a large Federal push in Canada for fast track approvals and government funding of infrastructure to instead send this gas east to europe and west to asia. just a few weeks ago a new national law was passed here to allow fast tracking of these projects preventing protesters and provinces from stalling these plans to ship east / west versus south. Signed / sealed and delivered Bills C-5 (One Canadian Economy Act), Bill 15 (Infrastructure Projects Act), and Bill 5, aim to fast-track and fund infrastructure and resource projects to get gas, oil, lumber, steel, aluminum, and wood products as these exports to US is causing a lot of hate in Washington.

Would this not be a concern going forward????

personally i love our gas heating and cooking appliances. (wife is professional chef capable and this spring we ran a second 1" line to the house to feed a new 300,000 btu gas stove) This spring we doubled the pipe size to our place from the main line as our prices are dropping now that US doesn't want it anymore.



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I had to look it up, but never knew that Vermont had a natural gas line. Vermont usually does follow California on it's loonyness.

I know the city of Burlington banned all gas powered lawn and landscaping equipment. Can't even run a generator if the power goes out without risking a fine.

 

[ultrarunner]

It’s not only California… other states claim they also know best.