Myth busters

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hillslider

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Did anyone catch the TV show Myth Busters this week? They were going to prove or disprove the idea of driving a truck with the tailgate down will save gas milage. I started to watch and then fell asleep and never found out the results. Just one of those things I have wondered about!
 
/ Myth busters #2  
The truck with the tailgate UP got better gas mileage. The explanation given by truck engineers the Myth busters consulted said it was due to a large rotating "detached air bubble" that forms right behind the cab and stays there--contained by the tailgate. Most of the air coming over the top of the cab then stays above this bubble in the truck bed before flowing back down. If the tailgate is down, the big bubble does not form and the air over the top of the cab comes down into the bed.

While all of this is probably true, it is still not a very intuitive explanation of why the gas mileage is better with the tailgate up.

JackIL
 
/ Myth busters #3  
It was on last night.

With the tailgate closed, an air pocket develops behind the cab that swirls the air in a circle. This air pocket works to deflect the air off the cab and down the back of the truck.

With the tailgate open, the air is sucked into the bed of the truck causing drag.

They did the tests in a tank of water with a model and oatmeal. The oatmeal showed the resistance, or the path of the water, which represented air flow.

Eddie
 
/ Myth busters #4  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( While all of this is probably true, it is still not a very intuitive explanation of why the gas mileage is better with the tailgate up. )</font>

As Eddie just pointed out, the "bubble" actually causes less aero drag by allowing the air to pass over the truck bed and tailgate thus increasing fuel mileage. Less drag = better fuel mileage.
 
/ Myth busters #5  
If you leave the tailgait down, you'll use more gas. That's because you have to turn around and back-track to pick up all your stuff that blew out. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I will be able to sleep tonight with a clearer head.....one less thing I do not have to figure out.

Thanks
 
/ Myth busters #7  
I thought it was funny.... For years I have heard this and even tried it for a while. I agree, it doesnt work.... Plus it takes away rigidity and sability from the bed.. Their explanation was basicly that it produced more downforce /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif with the tailgate down. So your do better on the track /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. This is probably part of the reason why the NASCAR trucks have a bed cover rather than an open bed.

On the flip side... I would say it impossible to prove it the way they did. each truck is different. Even though they used the identical truck, down to the color.. Unless they did a long term test with the same truck after a break in period with several tanks of fuel, its not accurate....
 
/ Myth busters #8  
It really doesn't matter the type truck or age. With the tailgate down and the "air bubble" lost, the air swirls over the cab creating a low pressure area behind the cab. That low pressure area (sort of a partial vacuum) in effect is trying to pull the truck backward. That increases the forward resistance and reduces the mileage. With the tailgate up, the air bubble causes the air to ride smoothly over the bed. It then creates a similar low pressure area behind the tailgate. But the area behind the tailgate is much smaller than the area of the back of the cab and the resistance is equally smaller. Therefore less mileage loss.
 
/ Myth busters #9  
Many years ago in a college physics class we did a project where we analyzed this. We actually constructed balsa wood pickup bodies and attached identical wings to them and tried to make them fly. The pickup body with the tail gate down required considerably more flap to keep the nose attitude down and flew quite a bit shorter distance when launched from the same catapult in the gym as the pickup body with the tailgate up. The tailgate up body had less drag and flew a further distance each time. We consulted an guy with a doctorate in aeronautic engineering about our conclusion. He did mention that we developed a detached vortex with the tailgate up and, that resulted in less drag on the body.

So, I was pleased that the Myth Busters came to the correct conclusion. However, I do have to discount their "identical" truck experiment some because no two trucks are actually identical. There could well have been enough variation in the trucks to allow one to travel 30 miles further on a tank of fuel than the other. That is besides the fact that individual driving habits could also result in as much of a variation. No matter, their "test" resulted in the correct outcome. Their water flow test with oatmeal was more accurate since the only difference was the tailgate on the same body with the same flow.

Interesting enough, in college, nobody in the class thought that their model with the tailgate up would have less drag. We tried hard to make the tailgate down model fly better to prove our hypothesis correct. It just wasn't happening.
 
/ Myth busters #10  
Exactly my point, you may have put it better than I did....
 
/ Myth busters #13  
BB, Good info on the tonneau. Just still wondering about the cap though. I'd always heard they would help out with mileage, and all but one of my trucks have had them. My wifes has the tonneau on her Ranger, still only gets 23MPG though, and never noticed a difference with or without it.
 
/ Myth busters #14  
Hey Eddie, I'm just wondering how the heck you find time to watch TV with all that you do! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

All kidding aside, you are an inspiration to me, and I bet to many, many of us. Keep up the good work! (as if I had to tell you to). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
/ Myth busters #15  
I documented the gas mileage on my Toyota Hilux for several years with and without a cap. It always got a couple mpg better without the cap. It was about 23-24 mpg with cap and 25-26 mpg without cap. I had the spreadsheet on my old computer which now has a bad video card. Maybe I can fire it up and copy the file before I trash the computer.
 
/ Myth busters #16  
The Nascar trucks have a rear spoiler that sticks straight up into the air to help catch some air still.
 
/ Myth busters #17  
Haven't seen anything about caps. But it would seem the large flat back would have the same effect as the flat back of the cab sucking air behind it. Same principle as race cars drafting. When one gets close enough behind the other to eliminate that air space, they both end up going faster. One doesn't have to pull that air, the other doesn't have to push it. Don't know.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Haven't seen anything about caps. But it would seem the large flat back would have the same effect as the flat back of the cab sucking air behind it. Same principle as race cars drafting. When one gets close enough behind the other to eliminate that air space, they both end up going faster. One doesn't have to pull that air, the other doesn't have to push it. Don't know. )</font>
Ha!! So that's what those soccermoms are doing tailgating the snot out of ya!!!
 
/ Myth busters #19  
Dont forget, that cap weighs about 3-500#'s. The weight alone could contribute to a mileage change on some trucks, especially a 4cyl Toyota. Another thing you may be able to look at is, what would the SUV equivelant of your pick-up get for fuel economy? You would likely be close to that, or at best between the PU and SUV.
 

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