My NX6010

[MinnesotaEric]

I got sidetracked by a neighbor who popped in just as I came out to fiddle with the tractor this afternoon, and so I did not get as much done as I had planned. Notwithstanding, I did get some things done.

The only way to make two extra line connections fit is to assemble everything on the bench and then feed the lines in.

With everything assembled, it is a tight fit. Even so, I may change the bracket design for the third time if I cannot get the softlines routed to the loader correctly.

Something NX series owners should take note of: while wiring in the 3rd fuction connections, I popped out a bolt that was holding an existing ground connection on top of the transmission housing directly under the seat. 6 months old and look at the electrolytic corrosion on this bolt. I cleaned this up and greased it and earlier I noted corrosion on the starter contacts. I think I'll add a sacrificial anode to limit this nonsense.

And I made a short video of the all-important blinking lights.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Today I finally hooked up the hydraulic lines to the top ram on the three point.

Poured in three gallons of Mobil 424, which is what I estimated leaked out into catch cans over the last six weeks while sitting on my driveway.

I buttoned up the hydro lines I wanted to protect from rubbing and finished taping up the wiring harness I made, and buttoned it all up in anticipation of my moment of triumph: Starting the engine to leak test and function test!

With my 88-year-old mother over-looking, I turned the key to start the engine, and click, nothing. I turn the key again, Click, nothing. Thinking some nanny switch was fowling the fun, I checked them all: outta gear in neutral, PTO switch off. Mid PTO lever off, parking brake set, seat safety switch still perma-hot-wired. Click, nothing.

Well, son-of-a….

My mother lost interest, and wondered off to sit down saying as she did so, "Well, you're the mechanic."

It is at these times I suddenly feel like the Asian guy in the movie Hot Dog who doesn't know what a Chinese Downhill is, since I am a mechanic and am supposed to know what is going on.

Anyway, I determined that the water in fuel sensor wasn't sending a signal to the ECU. Zero help from the service manual since my system is totally different than what is pictured. I don't know what went wrong with the sensor, if a couple of hundred key-on, but no start cycles did something while I was testing wires and signals, or if it is just a bad sensor, but eventually I got the stupid thing to talk to the ECU, so I could start the engine.

A bit anti-clamatic. No leaks, all functions okay.

 

[coobie]

Eric,nice job on your tractor.I am curious though,would any this work you have doing void your kioti warrenty?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Eric,nice job on your tractor.I am curious though,would any this work you have doing void your kioti warrenty?

I do not see how it could.

That said, I'm still not done. I need to add two flexible soft lines and the hard lines on the loader as well as the QDs at the end.

 

[ZAR2USA]

Although I removed the rubber boot and put a 12mm and 19mm wrenches on the joystick shaft in order to loosen the locknut and remove the shaft so I could drill out new mounting holes for the new handle, that little voice inside of me said I was about to break lugs off of the joystick twisting on the 12mm. As a result, I needed to find an alternative jig in order to hold the round stock shaft straight so I could drill it. A 5/8" hole through a saw horse, and I had my jig.

Brilliant idea.

 

[Threepoint]

Nice, Eric. That's a great feeling when the pressure comes up and nothing leaks. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to see how you configure the hard and soft lines to the FEL QA for your 3rd function.

I like the sock on the two hydraulic hoses to your toplink. Very tidy. Did you order that online or find it locally?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Nice, Eric. That's a great feeling when the pressure comes up and nothing leaks. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to see how you configure the hard and soft lines to the FEL QA for your 3rd function.

I like the sock on the two hydraulic hoses to your toplink. Very tidy. Did you order that online or find it locally?

Locally but so you know, it is a 1.78" (1.75"?) sock.

Looks like the sensor or the wiring to the sensor is suspect as I'm not starting again. The sensor is one of those things that was messed with by the dealer when they spun off the filter to add the inline fuel heater. Because of the design of a bracket right next to the fuel filter, if you spin off either the fuel filter or the water in fuel sensor, the water sensor's pigtail gets trapped and can stress the wiring of the sensor if you do not see it catch and free it. I'm wondering if the pigtail did get trapped and damaged and has had six weeks to corrode up in our humidity. How I got the sensor to work yesterday was by pulling it out, getting it soaked in diesel fuel and then screwing it back in (just as you'd clear water in the fuel filter). Of course, it could just be a bad part, but until yesterday, I didn't mess with it and the machine appeared fine six weeks ago when I parked it.

Meanwhile up on the dash, the hour meter displays an ERR-008 code: no signal from water sensor which is completely useless because the service manual says nothing, not a thing about the ERR codes that can be displayed in the hour meter (cf. p. 4-32 in your owner's manual).

Anyway, all to say I've got a tractor that doesn't start again unless I (apparently) mess with its water in fuel sensor.

I installed the stock seat today. I was going to do more, but the sensor issue stopped those plans and so I'll call the dealer Monday as they have service bulletin updates that I don't have access to.

 

[ksbrdmkr]

Have you tried disconnecting the battery, works for most computers or at least worth a try to cold boot the 0 & 1's

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Have you tried disconnecting the battery, works for most computers or at least worth a try to cold boot the 0 & 1's

No, I have not disconnected the battery. To the best of my knowledge the fault isn't a computer problem, it is the ECU saying, "I don't see the water sensor so incase there is no fuel, I'm protecting the expensive fuel pump by not starting." Because it rained all day, I have not had a chance to ohm out the sensor, or look for opens, but as it stands, right now, I think it is a most-likely a flakey sensor. Ay any-rate, I'll talk to my dealer Monday, listen to what they say, and act on it.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

As it turns out, since the dealer cannot hook up their laptop to confirm or deny any faults, I eat the cost of "battle-shipping" the sensor by ordering in a new water-in-fuel sensor drop shipped to me.

If the same fault continues after I install a new sensor, only then do I have justification to drop the tractor off at the dealer so they can track down the open with the benefit of their ability to talk to the ECU that I do not have.

I'd like to get my hands on the laptop software since there is no procedure to test the water-in-fuel sensor (also called the moisture sensor) in the service manual.

 

[oldpilgrim]

probably pulled a wire out of a connection somewhere while trying to stuff all those new hoses and wires in place.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

probably pulled a wire out of a connection somewhere while trying to stuff all those new hoses and wires in place.

I didn't come close to the sensor, guy, and until last Saturday I didn't even touch the engine's wiring harness. Moreover, not a single wire or hose has been "forced" anywhere.

Progress wise, I ordered a 72" tooth bar from BXExpanded today and began messing around with how to run hard lines on the loader.

So far I've run into SAE hydraulic fittings, NPT, JIC, BSPP, and today, a new standard: German metric.

 

[oldpilgrim]

You're a better man than I am. I'd have a whole lot of stuff where I didn't want it and it shouldn't be.

I'm amazed at your patience and meticulousness.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I ordered two Kioti hard lines hoping to recycle them since they are only $40.00 a throw (which is really inexpensive), but I only received one. While my parts guy is very apologetic, it does set me back from completing the entire mockup and the flakey sensor problem is preventing me from testing my industrial accelerator. As a result, I have not been able to make much progress. As it stands I've got to get the hard lines mounted in place before I can hook up the soft lines between my quick disconnects down on the lower loader bracket and check loader function. My concern is that I'll need to make a third mounting bracket to space the QDs out as far as I can to avoid rubbing.

Sadly, the computer controlled plasma cutter is in northern MN, leaving me to make these brackets by hand otherwise bracket making would be a no-brainer.

Anyway, as soon as everything is in place, I'll be able to finally chase this thing up to my new development, drop my mum off at the lake home that is 5 miles away, and get busy!

 

[coobie]

Ya better get going on your project the snow will be flying soon.LOL. I really have enjoyed watching your progress/pics with your tractor.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Ya better get going on your project the snow will be flying soon.LOL. I really have enjoyed watching your progress/pics with your tractor.

Since this tractor is an asset of my business, I'm still circling the wagons around commercial liability insurance as my normal errors and omissions policy doesn't cover heavy equipment. :laughing:

 

[k0ua]

Since this tractor is an asset of my business, I'm still circling the wagons around commercial liability insurance as my normal errors and omissions policy doesn't cover heavy equipment. :laughing:

Eric, that would be quite a stretch to get your E&O policy to cover your tractor "errors and ommisions".. :laughing:

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Eric, that would be quite a stretch to get your E&O policy to cover your tractor "errors and ommisions".. :laughing:

If it did, it would be one heck of a policy!

While I wait for parts to come in, the flakey water sensor woke up working today and so i checked for sound and made a video.

Either I should have used the real automotive sound damping stuff, or, as I suspected before trying, most of the noise is coming right in through the front glass. Thankfully, ever since I was a kid and first asked a girl out, I got used to not everything working out as planned--but once in a while I hit one out of the park.

Using dB Meter Pro on my iPhone 4 (dB A calibration). Inside with all doors and windows shut, AC on fan on speed level 2.

69-70 dB at 1,000 rpm (idle)
84-85 dB at 2,500 rpm (PTO speed)
86-87 dB at 2,700 rpm (max rpm).

ComTac or Super 31s for hearing protection.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I'm fitting hard lines today. The 90 degree fittings are Plan A, and straight hoses are Plan B. I'll fit 1/2" Agg quick disconnects at the ends.

Making this work is harder than it looks because everything wants to fall down and the holddowns aren't held until at least one bolt is sent through. As a result, I'm using zip-ties to hold everything together while I puzzle out how to really tie everything down nice and tidy. Once I'm comfortable with the hard line routing, I'll measure for the two soft lines I'll need to hook up from the quick disconnects down on the loader bracket. When i route those lines, that's when I'll find out (I think) if my existing loader bracket works, or if I'll need to remake it for the 3rd time.

 

[k0ua]

Eric be sure to use some blue locktite or something similar on that FEL bucket level indicator tube. Use it in the jamb nut and the top tube that screws down. They are notorious for coming loose in about the first 10 hours of use. If you don't notice it, you will wad up the indicator rod when you curl the bucket.