My Industrial Cabin Build

[Xfaxman]

WCD, since you will be using a lot of water for plants and trees, check into a cycle stop valve for the well: Cycle Stop Valves, Inc

 

[Carl_NH]

Well that stinks that your driller didn't include the pump in the deal, but the devils in the detail as always.

As Gary49 have said, Goulds and Grundfos are top of the line pumps, and for your depth and flow 30 GPM, and then your planned usage (orchard, house, etc) look for for the number of stages in the pump, not the GPM.

There are 2 wire pumps - with the start controls in the pump, or 3 wire pumps that the starter control box top side. I have done both, and it used to be the 3 wire were more reliable due the starting caps and controls in 70's to 80's would be the first point of failure, but with todays electronics either one will serve you well.

Here is a site I have bought from that will give you a good idea of the components and cost. You are being redirected...

The Goulds GS7GS07 is 3/4 HP, 7 GPM, at 160' static water level at 60PSI, the equivalent Grundfos pump is a 7S715 which is a 7 GPM 3/4 HP 15 stage 4" all SST pump.

Last as other have said if you install your self, make sure you tape the wires every 6-8' and install a torque arrestor above the pump and maybe a second one at 100' just to keep the wires from getting worn - there are white spacers you can use too.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Have used them elsewhere but not in a well. also a good pump.

My well driller swears by them. Said he got tired of pulling up other pumps...

 

[gary49]

Here in central Virginia, it’s commonplace for the well and the pump package to be separate items in the contract, I haven’t run across any drillers who automatically include the pump package. I’m a little surprised you haven’t needed to get the water system operating before now in the construction process, it’s mighty convenient to have running water on the job site.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Here in central Virginia, it’s commonplace for the well and the pump package to be separate items in the contract, I haven’t run across any drillers who automatically include the pump package. I’m a little surprised you haven’t needed to get the water system operating before now in the construction process, it’s mighty convenient to have running water on the job site.

My well included the electric run, pump, pipe, pressure tank and two yard hydrants... Explains why a 650ft well cost 13K...

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Thank you everyone for all the great information. Gary, we live in Free Union but the Build is in White Hall. Bedrock depth was 55 feet. I will be checking those pumps and the suppliers mentioned.
Stepponwolfe,the price you paid for that well was right in line with the price per foot that I paid plus other materials.
My neighbor mentioned earlier this year that they were going to have another well drilled because theirs had stopped producing water. She was asking about ours and I got the feeling she was blaming me. Maybe she thinks I used up all the water in my well.
I dont plan on using this well for any of our apple trees. I plan on putting in some tanks to harvest rainwater off the roof of our house and our barn. Those will be used for
Plants, etc.
Since it was mentioned, is there any reasonable way for me to find out what the water level is without calling a my well driller back. When I called him about 2 months ago to ask about what size line to run to the house he wasn’t exactly friendly.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Almost 40 years ago, I did a physics paper for a complex formula, dropping a stone in a well, and timing the time it took until you heard the splash. It was more involved than you would at first think.....that paper might could be in my mom's junk closet....

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Almost 40 years ago, I did a physics paper for a complex formula, dropping a stone in a well, and timing the time it took until you heard the splash. It was more involved than you would at first think.....that paper might could be in my mom's junk closet....

I was hoping more along the lines of lowering something down. I have a 300 foot tape that I could put a weight on but I’m not sure how I would know when it hit water. I could put a float above the weight I guess.

 

[Carl_NH]

I was hoping more along the lines of lowering something down. I have a 300 foot tape that I could put a weight on but I’m not sure how I would know when it hit water. I could put a float above the weight I guess.

Drop an ice cube as I recall it’s 40’ per second roughly.

Or tie a wrench or nut to a string or your tape and drop till it hits water.

1” 250 psi poly pipe in the well and to the house is most commonly used.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

After reading thru this info and then researching some more online, it’s as clear as mud. The poly lines from lowes are only 160 psi so I need the 250 psi poly line.
I have evolved to the “Buy once, Cry once “ philosophy on things like the pump. The Grundfos and Gould pumps are twice the cost of the Zoeller at Lowes. But I saw some Zoeller on line that were also twice the cost of Lowes, for the same model number pump.
Looking at the Gould and Grundfos pumps online
The questions I am left with are
115 vs 200. Assuming 200 is better
Hp rating
Stages. - multi stage is multiple impeller?
3 inch vs 4 inch.
Gpm.

Back in 2018 when I had it drilled (Feb I believe). I talked to the driller and he said it would be $400 to run the line from well to the house. I don’t know if that was just labor or included the line. I don’t remember anything about the pump being discussed. I’s live to hit the easy button and have someone else donit but I am guessing I would be looking at $1,000 in labor costs and markup.
Also, i need to install two frost proof yard hydrants. Doing this myself is a pain but it also means I know how to fix it later on if something goes south.

I was planning on running the poly line and having it layed out place when the electric trench is dug, so that I can join up to that trench halfway to the house and drop it in the same hole.

Looking at the well report filed with health dept,
Well depth 210 feet
Borehole depth 65 feet
Depth to bedrock 55 feet
Hole size 10 inches 0-65 feet
6 inches 65-210 feet
Casing size 6 1/4 inch from +2 to 65
Material PVC SDR 27.6
Water zones from 130-132. 143-145

Pump test
Static water level 30 feet
Flow rate 30gpm

Drillers log

I’ll probably take this info with me to one of the recommended stores here and talk to them to get what I need to do this. Not happening today so I still have time to drive myself crazy with research.
Today I am running some more pex in the house.