Major Score this last weekend

[Pete Judd]

I watch "Freecycle" in a couple of the local county's here, and up came a post for 100 gallons of diesel, and a 275 gallon tank. I responded quick, and picked it up last weekend. Had to pump the fuel into 2 55 gallon drums, and then load the tank witch was in a garage on to the trailer. One tank of gas to get it, and a little labor to get it done, and now I have a year of fuel for my tractor, and some for the boat, as well as a tank to put up in the air to gravity feed to the tractor, as I am having a hard time lifting 5 gallon jugs up to refuel.

The reason the person wanted it gone, was that he put in a heat pump, and wanted the fuel and tank out of his garage. The tank spent it's whole life inside, so I am planing to add a coat of Hammerall to it to keep it looking good.

 

[creekbend]

Good deal. :thumbsup:

 

[Stimw]

Is it No. 1 or No. 2 diesel?

 

[rsewill]

Is it No. 1 or No. 2 diesel?

Who cares.

 

[Pete Judd]

#2, heating oil is the same as red off road diesel.

 

[Bigfoot62]

#2, heating oil is the same as red off road diesel.

Not quite. Diesel fuel contains an additive package that heating oil does not have. (lubricity enhancer, anti-foam agents, etc)

JMHO, but I'm not sure that I would use it in my tractor. IF I were going to try to burn that in an engine, I would, at the very least, add a bottle of fuel treatment (like PowerService) and a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil.

 

[Pete Judd]

Bigfoot, I have a friend that delivers the fuel around here, and he delivers the same fuel weather off road, or heating oil. Just different Tax.

 

[Pete Judd]

Bigfoot, I have a friend that delivers the fuel around here, and he delivers the same fuel weather off road, or heating oil. Just different Tax.

 

[Bigfoot62]

Bigfoot, I have a friend that delivers the fuel around here, and he delivers the same fuel weather off road, or heating oil. Just different Tax.

OK, good luck.

 

[clemsonfor]

We have beat this horse before, its the same thing!

 

[MotorSeven]

I would still add PS and a Biocide since you don't know how old the fuel is or how much water is in it. A canister fuel filter is also mandatory in my book.

 

[Red Horse]

BigFoot is correct. Diesel and No. 2 heat are NOT the same. Do people use No 2. heat for off road? Yes-because it is dyed red-which off road diesel must be as clear diesel is subject to all the road taxes.

Diesel today is ULSD- ultra low sulfur. It does get treated with lubricity additives to compensate for the loss of lubricity properties which is the result of taking the sulfur out.

Again, do some distributors deliver heat as off road? Yes-makes life easier for them (only one product on the truck) plus they make a few more cents per gallon. Is it the same as "Diesel"?- no. It is not low on sulfur however so you don't run the risk of loss of lubricity.

 

[204saskman]

My buddy is my fuel delivery guy around here, Off road(ie. purple) is the same as heating oil. Just one more tax on heating oil. Me personally i have used it before and its not a big deal, But i did add some conditioner and also biocide. In alot of these tractors, i dont think it really matters a bunch as some of the older oil burning tractors would run on dam near any oil you put into them. Like i said, i would just add some conditioner and demulsifer agent to help with any water(i know when i cleaned out heating oil out there was a bunch of condensation in the tank.)

 

[Pete Judd]

I will be adding a Racor filter/water trap to the tank, and a dose of Startron biocide as well. Owner said that the fuel was only 4 months old, but since the tank is empty, will clean it out before putting the fuel back in from the 55 gallon drums.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

My buddy is my fuel delivery guy around here, Off road(ie. purple) is the same as heating oil. Just one more tax on heating oil. Me personally i have used it before and its not a big deal, But i did add some conditioner and also biocide. In alot of these tractors, i dont think it really matters a bunch as some of the older oil burning tractors would run on dam near any oil you put into them. Like i said, i would just add some conditioner and demulsifer agent to help with any water(i know when i cleaned out heating oil out there was a bunch of condensation in the tank.)

Yeah, if it has enough slickum to lube the injector pump and doesn't plug the injectors, a diesel will run on #2 fuel oil just fine. Our old AC has run for over 30 years on nothing but stove oil, and the engine has never given a problem. We do filter the fuel thoroughly before putting it in the tractor.

 

[MotorSeven]

Oh, Pete, one more thing. When you set the tank, tilt is back a bit away from the outlet. This keeps all the nasty sediment downhill from the outlet and will help keep the filter from clogging prematurely .

 

[Pete Judd]

Motor, already thought about that, and an extra valve on the low plug at the bottom of the tank, to drain some of the nasty's out once and a while. Plan on setting the tank 1 inch lower on the back end.

 

[Mace Canute]

Not quite. Diesel fuel contains an additive package that heating oil does not have. (lubricity enhancer, anti-foam agents, etc)

JMHO, but I'm not sure that I would use it in my tractor. IF I were going to try to burn that in an engine, I would, at the very least, add a bottle of fuel treatment (like PowerService) and a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil.

Power Service has a statistically insignificant effect on the fuel/additive blend compared to the baseline fuel and Marvel Mystery Oil actually causes the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than the baseline fuel, as per the following site.

http://rivrdog.typepad.com/files/copy-of-diesel-fuel-additive-version-3.pdf

The people at this site have attempted to clarify the difference between "diesel" fuel and "heating" fuel. Diesel vs Home Heating Fuel and this site gives some "Definitions of EIA Distillate Categories and Fuels Contained in the Distillate Grouping". http://www.deq.state.or.us/aq/committees/docs/lcfs/definitions.pdf

Diesel fuel and heating fuel have different specifications as defined in ASTM (American Society for Testing and Materials) Specification so yes, they are different but my take is diesel fuel can be used as heating fuel but heating fuel may not always be safe to use as diesel fuel but it might be..."you rolls yer dice and you takes yer chances". Depends a lot on the unit you use it in. My old John Deere R would burn both safely but I wouldn't risk heating fuel in a newer engine where it requires diesel fuel of a certain quality.

The grades for vehicles are set forth in the ASTM D975 standard. Heating fuels can be found in the ASTM D396 standard.

I couldn't find ASTM D396 but I did find ASTM D975. ASTM Specification D975

 

[rsewill]

Mace, good stuff. Saves me a lot if searching.