I have posted in earlier threads about coming to an understanding of why this bucket has less leverage. The bucket pivot pins on my old loader were 8.75 inches apart and they are 5.75 inches apart on this loader. A loss of over a third of the leverage, compared to the Cub. This is apparently to allow the bucket to tip farther on its 2 inch shorter bucket cylinders. The distance from the pivot pin to the bucket blade on my old loader is 23 inches, and it is 33 inches on this loader. This is another place where almost a third of that leverage is lost.
(Note: I've been looking at other similarly sized tractors' bucket pins and have seen no other brand with as short a distance between the rollback pins.)
I fitted my CC's bucket with a socket for a 2X2X1/4" four and a half foot boom that lifted and maneuvered a 300 pound anvil, actually visibly flexing that beam. I fitted this bucket with a similar socket and using the same boom, I could not lift (using the loader rollback) a 150 pound (max=generous estimation) pickup canopy shell.
This hydraulic system operates at 2422 psi. My old one at 2133 psi. The slight increase in pressure cannot overcome the design disadvantages in leverage.
As far as the size of the loader and its inability to lift objects as high as I had come to expect (even light objects). I found it was due to this: the distance from the boom pivot pin to the bucket pivot pin is a full foot shorter on the LL4100, as compared to the Cub Cadet 417. The boom, as well as the bucket, is simply smaller. Whereas the bucket was as wide as the outside of the tires (60 inches) on the Cub, it is not on the LS (58 3/8"), though the measurement outside the treads is the same. It's a handy thing to be able to drive into a slot that the loader cuts.
The dealer loaned me their hydraulic gauge and I checked the relief pressure at the bucket rollback hose and at relief, it was right up there at factory spec. They have suggested I could exceed factory spec. by increasing the relief pressure. I have thus far been hesitant to follow this course.
When I got this new tractor to replace my down-for-the-count Cub Cadet, so as to complete the many chores for which I needed a tractor, and for which reasons I borrowed the money to get it, I soon found that I could not use the loader to do all the things for which I needed it. This resulted in, among other things, my having to take the time and expense to build a set of
log forks as a way of eliminating some of the bucket rollback leverage issues. This got it close, though not all the way, to the leverage I was used to having. As for chores that require only the bucket, I simply must make do with less than I have become accustomed to.
I really hope that LS USA has someone who reads these pages and contacts me to address my issues.
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...but i think some dealers of other brands are starting rumors. If there was
a real problem with LS it would be made known by people who paid there hard earned for them.
If a LS owner tells me there is a problem, I will listen.
No, this is
NOT a dealer. It is a guy on a meager VA pension who needs a tractor to continue to make it on the land with any degree of independence. Yes, I am now an LS owner, and as I'm just about as broke as I can get, I guess I'm in it for the distance.
