Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed?

   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #61  
I spend time here, mostly reading and learning. Have learned a lot and really appreciate those who post and assist.

I hope I have the correct place for this question, if not I apologize. I am having a gun safe being delivered next week and have opted to lift it off the delivery truck myself to reduce the delivery cost (they won't have to bring a fork lift with them). I'll then need to position it in the garage I've built out for cars, motorhome, etc.

I have a cabbed JD 3046R with an H165 loader, and wondering two things.

First, will that the 3046R with H165 loader be able to lift it off a larger delivery truck ... safely?

Second, assuming it can lift it, should I attach a ballast box before unloading? I don't have one yet but will purchase one before if needed.

The shipping dimensions of the safe are listed as 63.33 H x 42.79 W x 28.00 D, and the weight is around 750 lbs.

Many thanks,

Jim
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #62  
Before placing the safe on floor, place a piece of plastic or a heavy duty garbage bag. One man can then slide it anywhere. Hand truck is good but sliding is way safer.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #63  
Before placing the safe on floor, place a piece of plastic or a heavy duty garbage bag. One man can then slide it anywhere. Hand truck is good but sliding is way safer.

As long as the bottom is flat and doesn’t have feet a few pieces of pipe for rollers is the easiest way to move safes.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #64  
I used golf balls to get a safe through a twisty passageway. That lets the safe turn or move sideways which is harder with pipe rollers.

Bruce
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #65  
I bought a spare drawbar and link and forced the drawbar into predrilled holes in the Plastic barrel. Make sure they are above centre of the height of the barrel.
Raise the 3ph to highest level and then fit top link, making sure it sticks out far enough for full travel.
Fill with rocks, concrete, scrap steel etc or even half full of water at 8# USG depending on weight desired.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #66  
With age, comes experience.
With experience, comes wisdom.
... With wisdom comes arthritis, and an enlarged prostate.

Jeez, I did things in the wrong order. I bought a big gun safe, and then the tractor!

"Honey, come help me pull this safe out of the back of my pickup," is only something a newlywed can get away with, not those of us with wisdom or experience.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #67  
How much is the lift gate service? Inquiring minds want to know! ☮️✌🏻
4 years ago the truck driver offered to use the lift-gate to lower my new air compressor to the ground and for NO CHARGE. He said someone else on his route already paid the extra $50 service charge for a truck with a lift-gate.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #68  
Most times the problem is not getting the safe off, it is getting the safe in the house, where it will sit. Have them deliver with a drop gate or Tommy Lift, whatever you call it, you position it on a piano dolly or safe dolly and roll it directly into the room in the house, through the front door, no step up.
Cut out a cardbard bottom and make very sure you can fit especially any corners, door, hall, room type.
The least of your worries is the tractor, just put a bush hog on the 3pt and go, if you must use the tractor.
But you must pick up clear and then sit the safe down clear also. Putting a safe into a house taker prior planning, like prior to purchase.

Wish I had a dollar for every safe that does not fit!
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #69  
Most times the problem is not getting the safe off, it is getting the safe in the house, where it will sit. Have them deliver with a drop gate or Tommy Lift, whatever you call it, you position it on a piano dolly or safe dolly and roll it directly into the room in the house, through the front door, no step up.
Cut out a cardbard bottom and make very sure you can fit especially any corners, door, hall, room type.
The least of your worries is the tractor, just put a bush hog on the 3pt and go, if you must use the tractor.
But you must pick up clear and then sit the safe down clear also. Putting a safe into a house taker prior planning, like prior to purchase.

Wish I had a dollar for every safe that does not fit!
I once hung a 700 Lb. large wood stove off my back hoe and placed it several feet inside a home through the front door. Very, very, slowly. Wish I took pictures, but I was sort of concentrating.
The front door to the home had a small porch also.
 
   / Lifting safe - Ballast Box needed? #70  
Thanks to all for the reply’s. I do have forks which will be used. I also forgot to mention the rear tires have fluid in them. For the lift I’ll attach a rotary cutter to the 3ph. As suggested, I’ll lift and have truck drive out from under.

Hooked up rotary cutter this afternoon and almost took out electrical box while backing up. After lift I’m going to get or fabricate a ballast box.

Again, many thanks for the guidance.

Jim
Looks like Jim has it all well in hand. This was his post #25. We can all rest now, assured that Jim will do well but do hope he will have some pics to post. And best of luck getting the job done.
 

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