Kioti vs Tym compact

[hikerguy64]

looking for a compact to handle 2 acres clear mowing, loader for snow and gravel work, post hole auger and 48 inch tiller

I have some pricing on both the Tym 233HST and the Kioti CK20HST. Looking for comments or recommendations

will trade out the JD X540 but will probably keep the IH Cub 123 - it has history

thanks for the help

 

[Dmace]

I don't know much about the TYM but my 06 model CK20HST has been flawless since I got it back in Oct. 2005 and it has more then exceeded my expectations for what this tractor should be able to do.

I have used the loader to move and spread hundreds of tons of gravel and rip-rap, it lifted and moved my 1,000lb lp tank with no hesitation. The backhoe seems like it's overpowered because it will drag the tractor right into the hole your digging, strapping it to a tree or big truck cures that and the backhoe is just plain incredible!

I also use a 60" rear mount snowblower in the winter that is just plain awesome compared to plowing, no snowbanks and all the snow is 40ft into the woods.
My last attachment is a 48" boxblade that does a very good job of leveling out my driveway and smoothing the bumps from my steep driveway.

I don't know about the TYM warranty but I doubt it is as good as the Kioti and Kioti has much more dealer support in this area vs. TYM.

Overall, I have been more then pleased with my Kioti CK20HST and would buy it again in a heartbeat.
Some pics: (click thumbnails for larger images)

 

[dex3361]

will trade out the JD X540 but will probably keep the IH Cub 123 - it has history

thanks for the help

Welcome to TBN and let me say howdy neighbor. I Know what you mean I couldnt get rid of my old Cub Cadet 129 when I got a BX1500 and L4400HST

 

[lawn_king]

Kioti for sure, its a no brainer. I base this on all i have read here @ tbn. They seem to be good quality machines with high owner satisfaction and few catastrophic failures. They are by far the best korean built machine on the market today.

 

[spruce Deere]

Lean towards kioti, they might just be around for a while. I do not own one but, they seem to have better dealer support... reading around on TBN that seems to be the word. Kioti is also a cub cadet tractor with cadet colors I gather too. TYM supplies scuts to mahindra also, but neither have been in tractors state side as long as kioti. Kioti tractors have been here a little longer...a good sign they might just stay a while. If you ever need parts, a dealer is way easier than wrecking yard hopp'n.... I ran into this with my 240D yanmar, But it was 20 some years later when it needed major parts

 

[DK35vince]

Kioti is also a cub cadet tractor with cadet colors I gather too.

Kioti supplied only 3 models for a season or 2 for Cub Cudet a few years back. The 8354, 8404, and 8454 models.
The current model Cub compacts are Cub Cadet/Yanmar.
The current Bobcat compact tractors are Kioti machines with differant loaders/backhoes.
Its getting hard to keep track of it all.

 

[MDM]

Both spec out very close. Tym does offer a cab and belly mower and Kioti does not. Tym has a little better warranty. Really a toss up as far as quality. I would go with the best dealer/deal I could get in this situation.

 

[Loren49]

I think TYM has a 5 year warranty which is longer than Kioti. The Kioti is heavier for a given horsepower than TYM (I think). From my research a while back they were also less $$$$. Mine has been great so far - about 100 hours.

Loren

 

[dgl24087]

Kioti Warranty:

Engine and drive line
All units - 48 monthsParts & Labor

Tractors 24 months Parts & Labor
Front-End Loaders, Backhoes and Implements 12 months Parts & Labor
Replacement Parts 3 months or the remainder of the unit warranty, whichever is longer Parts Only
Replacement Engines 12 months Parts & Labor


TYM Warranty:
5-Year Warranty

Years 1-3 bumper-to-bumper Parts and Labor

4th Year Parts and Labor on Drive Train only
5th Year Drive Train Parts only ($200.00 deductible per claim)
Limited to 3000 Hours
Batteries and Tires are warranted by Manufacturer
Transferable one time for $250.00​

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[hikerguy64]

looks like I may add the Bobcat CT122 into my comparisons... looks to be a bit higher in pricing though - also had someone mention the Kubota B2320

thanks for the replys so far.... all very helpful

R/

Jeff

 

[Gittyup]

The Bobcat is the same as the Kioti. I've used a CK20 for a few hours, and tested the TYM T273 several times when I was looking. There isn't a whole lot of difference. Both are well made machines. I would go the T273 instead of the T233 in the TYM. At 27 HP, the TYM is the better choice. The TYM is has about a 10" shorter wheel base and comes standard with a QA loader, and the longer warranty, and can get a MMM (which you can also get on the Bobcat).

What swung me to Kioti was the answer to the question: "Who is likely to still be in the U.S. market in 10-15 years?". The clear answer was Kioti. There is no substitute for this. Those that bought Belarus, a Honda SCUT (5813), or now Farmtrac, can tell you all about that. There is still risk with Kioti, but less than there is with TYM.

 

[pete-mi]

I have a early TYM tractor that was sold by Scorpion and have been very happy with it. It is T330 and it runs a 84 in finish mower with ease. I feel even more confident in TYM that I did a couple years ago and they have grown a lot. They have a longer warranty which is something to consider. I have never owned a Kioti but they look to be a good tractor to. I would look at and test drive both before I would decide on one. It makes it hard as they are both top picks.

 

[IslandTractor]

I owned a Kioti CK20 and was very happy with it. I still use it for my avatar out of loyalty. If I could make one improvement it would be to add a 3 speed HST as the high range is currently just a little too high to use in the field for much of anything except flat mowing. That said, otherwise the CK20 is an amazing workhorse with a great loader. It can be configured as a TLB for not much more than a BX24 type machine and will outperform the SCUTs without any problem (except finish lawn mowing). The TYMs have a very good reputation too and are comparable (don't know about the HST range). I'm comfortable with Kioti (on my second one) so that would be my recommendation but I'd look carefully at the TYM and Kubota B series too.

 

[Oleozz]

We have an excellent dealer here in Pa., his name is Wallace and you will find many helpful posts on this site authored by him. Kioti owners are fortunate to have three or four Kioti dealers who visit this site and are very willling to give advice and hints. Might pay to get in touch with one of them.

 

[Dmace]

They have a longer warranty which is something to consider.

It may sound better when you say 5 year vs 4 year but look at the specifics and the Kioti has a better warranty as pointed out by dgl24087 here.

Kioti is 48 months for Engine and Drivetrain parts and labor
TYM is 36 months for Bumper to Bumper parts and labor then 12 months parts and labor only on drivetrain and then parts only for the last 12 months on drivetrain only. So the engine is only warrantied for 3 years vs 4 for the Kioti. And for the 4th year, TYM only covers parts only where the Kioti is still parts and labor.

Kioti warranties the loader, backhoe and implements for 12 months parts and labor as well. Plus the TYM warranty is limited to 3000 hours which means commercial users will realistically only get 2-3 years of warranty vs the unlimited hours warranty on the Kioti.

 

[hikerguy64]

getting real close to pulling the trigger on a Kioti CK20 HST w 60" mower, good price, 0% financing and a good trade on the JD

 

[Dmace]

getting real close to pulling the trigger on a Kioti CK20 HST w 60" mower, good price, 0% financing and a good trade on the JD

Sounds like a Win-Win situation.

 

[myyaz33]

I would not hesitate choosing either the TYM or the Kioti.

They are very comparable in many ways. The loader might even be the same on the CK20 as the T233(Can someone confirm?). My opinion is the fit and finish on the Kioti is a bit superior. As far as who will be around in 20yrs?, no one can realistically determine which of these So. Korean companies will here so there is some risk with either choice. Both companies have put out new models recently and both have built tractors for other companies to brand as their own.

I ended up choosing the TYM 273 because I have 2 dealers that are fairly close and the Kioti dealer was too far away. The warranty is comparable for both companies and a wash as far as I am concerned. I recently saw that TYM put out a factory cab for the K2 T233,T273, T293 which would really be nice this winter moving snow.

 

[spruce Deere]

getting real close to pulling the trigger on a Kioti CK20 HST w 60" mower, good price, 0% financing and a good trade on the JD

Don't hesitate, coyotes or "kioti" only give fleeting chances, then they gone... fast

 

[MDM]

I would be kind of leary of the hilly WV terrain and the 2 range tranny. You will most likely be relegated to low range for all of your chores because High will not have enough power to pull the tractor up a hill. Not sure what kind of terrain you have and it may not even matter, or affect you. Kioti would have a real keeper if they had a 3 range tranny in the CK20, IMHO.