King Kong Teeth

fishfactor · May 27, 2011

I like to post my thoughts good and bad on products that I try. Hopefully it will benefit someone at sometime.

The previous set of teeth I ran on our Gyro Trac GT25 came from King Kong Tools. They just came off and here are the results.

Life - I was happy with the life at almost exactly 100 hours.

Cut - I was happy with the performance. Seemed to cut just as fast as Gyro Trac teeth.

But.... if you plan on using them, plan on switching for good. The tab on the back of the tooth is a little smaller than the Gyro Trac teeth and doesn't completely fill up the pocket. The extra space in the pocket gets packed full of debris. The debris is packed so tight that you need a hammer and small chisel or screw driver to get it out in order to put a Gyro Trac tooth back on, best case. I had a few pockets that were deformed. I had to use a die grinder with a small endmill to reshape the pocket so the Gyro Trac Teeth would fit. Luckily it didn't ruin the base. Those are no fun to change.

I had been warned about problems associated with the pocket/tab by a member on this board, but I already had them on the machine so it was too late.

So, if you decide to try them you will probably be happy with the teeth in general, but plan on making the switch forever. I would imagine that these problems would be compounded the longer you use them and eventually you would not be able to switch back without replacing all of the bases.

cat 297c · May 28, 2011

Had the same problem with king kong tools on my Denis Cimaf head, but never became an issue. U need to try the BFS533P has carbide hard facing i got 175hrs out of the last set i used. They also keep a sharp edge than the hard steel tools, i sharpened them round 20-30hrs depending on the material i was grinding.

fishfactor · May 29, 2011

cat 297c said:
Had the same problem with king kong tools on my Denis Cimaf head, but never became an issue. U need to try the BFS533P has carbide hard facing i got 175hrs out of the last set i used. They also keep a sharp edge than the hard steel tools, i sharpened them round 20-30hrs depending on the material i was grinding.

I tried some of them spaced equally on the head. Cut was slower and when you factor all things in, the life difference didn't equal the price difference. If you don't like to sharpen they may be a good choice. I don't mind sharpening and like mulching a 24" hardwood in 10 minutes

jamesn · May 30, 2011

BUY A FECON, 600 HOURS ON ONE SET OF TEETH:thumbsup:

cat 297c · May 30, 2011

Fecon Can't Hang with a cimaf or gyro trac Head

fishfactor · May 30, 2011

jamesn said:
BUY A FECON, 600 HOURS ON ONE SET OF TEETH:thumbsup:

I've got one and get about 1000 hours on teeth unless they get broken.

jamesn · May 31, 2011

1000 HOURS ON WHAT KIND OF HEAD??

jamesn · May 31, 2011

cat 297c said:
Fecon Can't Hang with a cimaf or gyro trac Head

I BEG TO DIFFER. CIMAF WILL NOT HANG WITH FECON, SEPPI, FAE IN TEXAS

jamesn · May 31, 2011

looks like a nice cimaf head on your rayco:laughing:, next time buy a fecon machine and it would have sold by now:confused2:

tonyoz · May 31, 2011

jamesn said:
looks like a nice cimaf head on your rayco:laughing:, next time buy a fecon machine and it would have sold by now:confused2:

Jamesn open your eyes man and you would see it is a Rayco head with a FAE rotor

fishfactor · May 31, 2011

jamesn said:
1000 HOURS ON WHAT KIND OF HEAD??

Smooth rotor Fecon head painted black and sold as Bobcat Brand. We're not in sand much at all which helps.

WestshoreConstruction · May 31, 2011

fishfactor said:
I like to post my thoughts good and bad on products that I try. Hopefully it will benefit someone at sometime.

The previous set of teeth I ran on our Gyro Trac GT25 came from King Kong Tools. They just came off and here are the results.

Life - I was happy with the life at almost exactly 100 hours.

Cut - I was happy with the performance. Seemed to cut just as fast as Gyro Trac teeth.

But.... if you plan on using them, plan on switching for good. The tab on the back of the tooth is a little smaller than the Gyro Trac teeth and doesn't completely fill up the pocket. The extra space in the pocket gets packed full of debris. The debris is packed so tight that you need a hammer and small chisel or screw driver to get it out in order to put a Gyro Trac tooth back on, best case. I had a few pockets that were deformed. I had to use a die grinder with a small endmill to reshape the pocket so the Gyro Trac Teeth would fit. Luckily it didn't ruin the base. Those are no fun to change.

I had been warned about problems associated with the pocket/tab by a member on this board, but I already had them on the machine so it was too late.

So, if you decide to try them you will probably be happy with the teeth in general, but plan on making the switch forever. I would imagine that these problems would be compounded the longer you use them and eventually you would not be able to switch back without replacing all of the bases.

Fish just buy the teeth directly from Robbie or Fred they are priced competitively and are a OEM solution.

cat 297c · May 31, 2011

Jamesn,
My Rayco c140 has a Rayco head on it with a Fae Rotor, i do have Quadco Chippers on it man wat a difference! Just sold my Cat 297c it had a Denis Cimaf 180d head on it. Lookin to down size to one machine inbetween my Cat 297 an Rayco 140, maybe a Rayco C100 or Lamtrac 6125 with Cimaf or gyro head. anyone intrested in my Rayco 140?

fishfactor · May 31, 2011

WestshoreConstruction said:
Fish just buy the teeth directly from Robbie or Fred they are priced competitively and are a OEM solution.

Maybe Robbie will PM me a price

I've been getting them directly from Gyro Trac.

jamesn · May 31, 2011

also rowmec, in conroe does sell some sort of carbide teeth for a cimaf head if you want their number let me know and i will pm it too you. dont know the price thats conroe, texas

jamesn · May 31, 2011

how much does a set of teeth cost for a cimaf head? and how many hours will a set of cimaf teeth last in the sand? how many hours will you get from a set of cimaf teeth in rocks? i am just curious

cat 297c · Jun 1, 2011

Sandy conditions anywhere from 60-80hrs wouldn't even try to cut with the cimaf in rocks unless i threw on some carbides. For regular Cimaf teeth round $50 a tooth, for harden Steel Round $55, but haven't bought them in a while so they could be more or less.