Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[QRTRHRS]

GMC also had a V12 gas engine which was 2 V6 blocks molded together. It had two carbs, two distributors.

 

[4570Man]

most 70’s-90’s diesel vocational trucks were underpowered EMPTY.
210HP was the normal power rating for a 33,000LB dump truck.
That’s absurd.

It’s still hard to find single axel trucks with any power. Ford has been putting 6.7s in 650s and 750s for the last 10 years or so but before that they were using 5.9s or 3116 cats. The 6.7 is better but it’s still underpowered if you actually want to use a 750 to do 750 things. The vast majority of those are fleet trucks and I think they’re under powered on purpose to save fuel and keep drivers going slower. Ford is still building medium duty trucks with gas engines.

 

[RobertN]

GMC also had a V12 gas engine which was 2 V6 blocks molded together. It had two carbs, two distributors.

GM/Detroit did all kinds of variation on the diesels too. The 71 series ranged from one, two, three, four and six cylinders, and the V-types six, eight, twelve, sixteen, and twenty-four cylinders. The 92 series ran v-6 to v-16. Other series had a number of variations based on common parts too.

They also made reverse rotation versions of some engines

We had a GMC Topkick 3000 gallon water tender(Tender not Tanker ) with 8V92T at our fire station. That thing was LOUD during pump operations. I van only imagine the 16V92 at rated RPM; must be an amazing cacophony of sound!

 

[Engineer42]

GM/Detroit did all kinds of variation on the diesels too. The 71 series ranged from one, two, three, four and six cylinders, and the V-types six, eight, twelve, sixteen, and twenty-four cylinders. The 92 series ran v-6 to v-16. Other series had a number of variations based on common parts too.

They also made reverse rotation versions of some engines

We had a GMC Topkick 3000 gallon water tender(Tender not Tanker ) with 8V92T at our fire station. That thing was LOUD during pump operations. I van only imagine the 16V92 at rated RPM; must be an amazing cacophony of sound!

Lol, ask for a Tanker and you get a plane, right?

 

[RobertN]

Lol, ask for a Tanker and you get a plane, right?

 

[Engineer42]

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Nice shot.

On the East Coast, if you ask for a tender you get chicken!

 

[RobertN]

Nice shot.

On the East Coast, if you ask for a tender you get chicken!

Yes, there are some differences in nomenclature West Coast vs Midwest vs East Coast. But when things hit the fan, the job gets done !

 

[nisaacs]

GMC also had a V12 gas engine which was 2 V6 blocks molded together. It had two carbs, two distributors.

Yup, 702 CI, (2) 351's.

Anyone remember these jewels? We had a '65 KW with a log loader on it and 7" muffler/stack, it would stand some fire. Original output was 275 but someone put a 320 pump on it before we bought it. It was cool as hell. Then we had '60 Pete with a 9" muffler/stack and it wouldn't do it. It was 290.

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[Hay Dude]

It’s still hard to find single axel trucks with any power. Ford has been putting 6.7s in 650s and 750s for the last 10 years or so but before that they were using 5.9s or 3116 cats. The 6.7 is better but it’s still underpowered if you actually want to use a 750 to do 750 things. The vast majority of those are fleet trucks and I think they’re under powered on purpose to save fuel and keep drivers going slower. Ford is still building medium duty trucks with gas engines.

Your assertion of “underpowered” is due to 2 reasons
1. The engine’s rating. Most companies buy lower powered/smaller displacement diesel engines in their trucks to save money. The more underpowered, the less “cowboying” the truck gets
2. The engine’s displacement. A 6.7L Cummins is an excellent engine. However, it doesn’t have the rotating mass to get the load moving and keep it moving like a larger displacement diesel.

 

[Hay Dude]

Anyone remember GM “Toroflow” diesels?
Way before my time, but my grandpa, who owned a fleet of fuel delivery trucks, used to tell me about them.

 

[QRTRHRS]

I had never heard of the GM Toroflow even though I worked with a number of early and mid sixties GM's/Chevys. All gassers.

 

[paulsharvey]

Saw on FB Market, 1994 F350, dump box, 5.8L V8... I'll bet that thing is a dog empty; put 4000# in the back, and I don't it will reach 60 mph. Many years ago, I worked for a plumbing company as a helper, cause I had a valid driver's license, unlike most of the plumbers... F250s, single cab, long utility bed, 5.8L, heavy pipe rack, and probably 1000# of tools and supplies; those things were Dogs. Not to say they didn't run, or get from A to B, but not the kinda performance anyone would seek out.

 

[paulsharvey]

Anyone remember the small Toyota dually, build of the pre-tacoma truck, used by Uhaul. 2.4L 4 cylinder. I think its rated for 87 hp?

 

[Renze]

When I was volunteering at the local fire station, we had a couple of Ford 7 and 8 series cab chassis based Beck and Van Pelt buildups(one was '86, the other '89 if memory serves...). They both had CAT 3208T's. They worked well, but best you could get was 58-60mph on the freeway. One was covered by paid staff and used a lot. It just never got anywhere on the highway very quickly. Funny thing is, that Engine is now a taco truck...

In 1959 our national pride, Daf, came out with a 5.75 liter 165hp turbo diesel. They started building engines just two years prior by purchasing a license from Leyland, and where Leyland itself never got their turbo engines right, eventually leading to its demise, Daf got it right.

These trucks were also available as 6x6 25 ton GVW, but you had to work hard to drive 25 ton offroad with 165hp and 1959 turbo lag..

This truck is known among drivers as the frog.

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In the same era, truckers were crossing the Brenner pass over the Alps, 44 ton with a naturally aspirated 11.6l engine with 240hp...

That was the era when poor brakes were lethal, and some trucks from the flat lands with tall gears, could not take off in 1st once stopped on the hills.

There is a tunnel now for 40 years across the Alps, but oldtimers talk in awe about the Brenner pass...

 

[Hay Dude]

A guy I worked for in my teen years/early 20’s had a late 80’s Ford flatbed with a 360 4 speed manual in it and even running empty, you’d have to drop down from 4th to 3rd to climb a modest hill.

 

[Hay Dude]

I had never heard of the GM Toroflow even though I worked with a number of early and mid sixties GM's/Chevys. All gassers.

Well then here you go. Enjoy:

GMC Toro-Flow Diesel Engines

 

[QRTRHRS]

Forget the year now but I had a Ford F250, 360, 4spd. Not only a slug but a thirsty slug.

 

[nisaacs]

A guy I worked for in my teen years/early 20’s had a late 80’s Ford flatbed with a 360 4 speed manual in it and even running empty, you’d have to drop down from 4th to 3rd to climb a modest hill.

A little trivia, the 360-390 "FE block" ended its pickup truck career in mid 1977. Next in line was the 351m-400 and later the 460 and 302-351w.

 

[Oaktree]

Anyone remember the small Toyota dually, build of the pre-tacoma truck, used by Uhaul. 2.4L 4 cylinder. I think its rated for 87 hp?View attachment 4093915

Man, those 80s-90s vintage tacomas couldn't get out of their own way empty, don't even want to think about how much of slug they'd be with a load like that!

 

[Jstpssng]

Man, those 80s-90s vintage tacomas couldn't get out of their own way empty, don't even want to think about how much of slug they'd be with a load like that!

I had a '91. It was tough as nails but as you say; going down the interstate with my ATV in back, sometimes I'd have to shift into 4th. There's one intersection in Vermont where I'd stop on a hill, then turn left. I learned to put it into 4lo until I got on flat ground.