just bought YM2210D

[j911brick]

i just bought a ym2210d.The good part is it only has 36 hours on it. The bad part is it has spent many years outside under a tree i think and the guy who last worked on it knows less than me. i know at a minimum it needs an injection pump, and i seem to have coolant in the exhaust. and i think a hydraulic leak under the transmission. i bought this to use on the farm so i cant wait to put it to work

 

[Jtullis13]

Welcome to TBN.
Congrats on your 2210d, you will love it. As for the hours, I am sure it has way more than 36 hours on it, these hour meters roll over and over, however it probably still has a lot of life left in it, the 2210d was the largest 2 cylinder Yanmar made. Are you sure it is coolant in the exhaust? Or is it just water from being outside? Does the block have a crack in it? Does it turn over or fire at all? Your injection pump might be fine, why do you think it needs an injection pump? You need to provide more information about the machine. You will need to do a complete service on it too, which everyone on here can chime in on what you should probably look for and do. So give more description of the thing on when it last ran, if it turns over ect.

 

[kenmac]

36 HRS on a 35 ? year old tractor. the tractor would be in excellent condition. Coolant in the exhaust / from sitting outside getting water in the muffler, blown head gasket.
If it's from sitting outside getting water in the muffler, you may want to at least remove the head and check for things rusted up in there

 

[j911brick]

Welcome to TBN.
Congrats on your 2210d, you will love it. As for the hours, I am sure it has way more than 36 hours on it, these hour meters roll over and over, however it probably still has a lot of life left in it, the 2210d was the largest 2 cylinder Yanmar made. Are you sure it is coolant in the exhaust? Or is it just water from being outside? Does the block have a crack in it? Does it turn over or fire at all? Your injection pump might be fine, why do you think it needs an injection pump? You need to provide more information about the machine. You will need to do a complete service on it too, which everyone on here can chime in on what you should probably look for and do. So give more description of the thing on when it last ran, if it turns over ect.

I'm pretty confident about the 36 hrs. no appearnt wear, just sunburn and a little rust on a few parts. but it looks like the powertrain might have been repainted at some point since i see one shade of grey under the outer grey paint. I'm also sure about the coolant, not water, in the exhaust since it was dripping from the exhaust along with unburnt fuel. it did turn over and fire but only for about 30 seconds with white smoke. the throttle had to be full on. i think this due to the fact that the PO tried rebuild the injection pump and did it wrong since it was only pumping one injector. i worked on the injection pump and got it to pump both cylinders but would only run at full throttle, then i totally messed the pump up. at this point i plan to pull the head, go completely through the cooling and injection system. i am going to need help on specifications like head torque and setting the governor since i think the po messed with that as well.

 

[j911brick]

36 HRS on a 35 ? year old tractor. the tractor would be in excellent condition. Coolant in the exhaust / from sitting outside getting water in the muffler, blown head gasket.
If it's from sitting outside getting water in the muffler, you may want to at least remove the head and check for things rusted up in there

I'm thinking it may have hydrolocked with fuel and the PO tried to start it by dragging it. see my previous post. the story i was given was that the PO bought the tractor from his brother who was the original owner, but died a few years ago and the po bought it from the estate. is it possible to post pictures here?

 

[Jtullis13]

Yes you can post pictures. Are you using your cell phone or a computer?

 

[clemsonfor]

I'm pretty confident about the 36 hrs. no appearnt wear, just sunburn and a little rust on a few parts. but it looks like the powertrain might have been repainted at some point since i see one shade of grey under the outer grey paint. I'm also sure about the coolant, not water, in the exhaust since it was dripping from the exhaust along with unburnt fuel. it did turn over and fire but only for about 30 seconds with white smoke. the throttle had to be full on. i think this due to the fact that the PO tried rebuild the injection pump and did it wrong since it was only pumping one injector. i worked on the injection pump and got it to pump both cylinders but would only run at full throttle, then i totally messed the pump up. at this point i plan to pull the head, go completely through the cooling and injection system. i am going to need help on specifications like head torque and setting the governor since i think the po messed with that as well.

So you think a 36 ish year old tractor only has 36 hours???:confused3:

Highly suspect. Why would it of only been used one hour a year. Or 10 hours for three years then parked for three decades?

 

[j911brick]

just pulled the head off and it looks like a blown head gasket. going to have head checked anyway.

on a side note the cylinders do not appear any wear at all. everything i can tell this unit most likely has only 36 hrs.

 

[j911brick]

So you think a 36 ish year old tractor only has 36 hours???:confused3:

Highly suspect. Why would it of only been used one hour a year. Or 10 hours for three years then parked for three decades?

people buy things all the time never use them. cars pop up all the time that are 50 years old with only 10 miles on them. it happens. i think i just seen a 50s model Case with only 250 hrs. guy said he only used it to clear snow from his driveway.

 

[clemsonfor]

It does happen but it seems to "happen" at a frequent amount here on this website alone with yanmars which are an obscure tractor... especially on a model that was never sold new here in the US? It was most likely sold new in Japan, used over there for a decade or two then imported here to be bought by some guy to leave it out under the tree to only clear the snow on his farm located in mid Louisiana ? These are more obscure models (not sold here in the US to begin with so rarer here), it's not like it's a Chevy car or truck that literally millions were sold and the chances that they would sit around unused by an 85 year old man were a lot higher...at that vehicles only rarely poo up that are truly survivors of this age.

It could happen but much more likely it would be an actual US model and not a grey but anything is possible.

 

[j911brick]

It does happen but it seems to "happen" at a frequent amount here on this website alone with yanmars which are an obscure tractor... especially on a model that was never sold new here in the US? It was most likely sold new in Japan, used over there for a decade or two then imported here to be bought by some guy to leave it out under the tree to only clear the snow on his farm located in mid Louisiana ? These are more obscure models (not sold here in the US to begin with so rarer here), it's not like it's a Chevy car or truck that literally millions were sold and the chances that they would sit around unused by an 85 year old man were a lot higher...at that vehicles only rarely poo up that are truly survivors of this age.

It could happen but much more likely it would be an actual US model and not a grey but anything is possible.

i hear what your saying. i just read up on these grey market units The article was saying that in japan it was cheaper for farmers to buy new tractors every year and we would end up with like new low hour equipment for a fraction of the price. i can imagine people would think they need a tractor, buy it, use it few times or for a particular job, then priorities change and they forget all about it. a friend of mine has a ten year old JD sub compact tractor with only 125 hours. he bought it to do a job but now he just hires landscapers to maintain the property. he is actually trying to sell me a landscape rake because he never uses it. probably only has 25 hrs on it.

 

[kenmac]

well, I don't know if they (in Japan) trade every year,or not. I do know it takes many years for them to ever to arrive here.
If some farmer in Japan were to trade a tractor tomorrow. It would take years for them to come state side.
This is the reason you don't see any 2017 models here.

Don't mean to burst your bubble, or piss you off, but I just don't buy the original 36 hours on that tractor.
I know a guy here, that buys those tractors by the container full . I just don't believe an original 36 hr 35 yr old tractor from Japan would have gotten passed him

 

[clemsonfor]

i hear what your saying. i just read up on these grey market units The article was saying that in japan it was cheaper for farmers to buy new tractors every year and we would end up with like new low hour equipment for a fraction of the price. i can imagine people would think they need a tractor, buy it, use it few times or for a particular job, then priorities change and they forget all about it. a friend of mine has a ten year old JD sub compact tractor with only 125 hours. he bought it to do a job but now he just hires landscapers to maintain the property. he is actually trying to sell me a landscape rake because he never uses it. probably only has 25 hrs on it.

But that's 10 years old with 125hrs. Not 39 years old with 35 hours.

We all know the story on these and have heard the tax structure, pride of ownership thing and buying a new tractor every so often and selling the used one out of country story. That still is a very low hour number. Even if they only put 35 hours on it before it came here 16 years ago, someone bought it and then put zero hours on it? Is the 2210 a three digit hour meter? 135 or 235 hours is way more believable. These units also have variable hour meters only measuring a real hour at operating rpms.

 

[fried1765]

But that's 10 years old with 125hrs. Not 39 years old with 35 hours.

We all know the story on these and have heard the tax structure, pride of ownership thing and buying a new tractor every so often and selling the used one out of country story. That still is a very low hour number. Even if they only put 35 hours on it before it came here 16 years ago, someone bought it and then put zero hours on it? Is the 2210 a three digit hour meter? 135 or 235 hours is way more believable. These units also have variable hour meters only measuring a real hour at operating rpms.

I can relate to similar low hours.

My situation is NOT 35 hours,....but still, very low!
I put 500 hours on my 3400 Ford TLB over 33 years......that is an average of 15 hours per year.

I just bought a 250 hour 13 year old original owner Kubota L48.
19 hours per year!

Exceptionally low hour tractors DO come on the market, for various reasons.

 

[rScotty]

I can relate to similar low hours.

Exceptionally low hour tractors DO come on the market, for various reasons.

Yes they do. It seems to be part of the American frenzy to buy things and then just let them sit....I bought a canoe off Craig's list a few years ago that a person took delivery on and then put it up in the rafters of his garage. It's a beautiful boat of lightweight kevlar/epoxy and hand finished & varnished wood. The paddles themselves are works of art. He not only never used; it still had the paper shipping bill stapled to the gunwale. The company that made it sells the same canoe today for 10X what he wanted for it.

And I know of a Ford PU bought as a backup to pull a horse trailer at a racing stable that has sat in that barn now for 34 years....

However, as nutty as us Americans are about buying and then not using something.... we aren't yet used to seeing folks in other countries do the same. And the YM2210 is a model never sold new in the USA. As the rest of the world becomes more affluent, we may begin to see them adopt some our weirder consumer habits. Or it may simply have that old 3 digit odometer. Anyway, nice tractor.
rScotty

 

[j911brick]

It does happen but it seems to "happen" at a frequent amount here on this website alone with yanmars which are an obscure tractor... especially on a model that was never sold new here in the US? It was most likely sold new in Japan, used over there for a decade or two then imported here to be bought by some guy to leave it out under the tree to only clear the snow on his farm located in mid Louisiana ? These are more obscure models (not sold here in the US to begin with so rarer here), it's not like it's a Chevy car or truck that literally millions were sold and the chances that they would sit around unused by an 85 year old man were a lot higher...at that vehicles only rarely poo up that are truly survivors of this age.

It could happen but much more likely it would be an actual US model and not a grey but anything is possible.

it is 4 digit meter so it would have to have gone over 1000 hrs. its also possible the meter was replaced, but it is a Japanese meter. no matter, its not worth debating. my bigger concern is getting it operational so i can do the work i intended it for.
of course like everybody else i would like the manuals so i can learn how to operate it and fix it. i do have the parts manual. was there an American equivalent yo the this tractor?

 

[phatgemi]

I guess its not impossible for it to only have 36 hours on it. Just as likely that it shouldnt need a head gasket and injector pump after so few hours. If its been repainted, I'm betting viet rebuild with probable a couple turnovers on the tach and shoddy rebuilding. Any yanmar engine needing that major surgery after so few hours is rare indeed. Good luck.

 

[clemsonfor]

I guess its not impossible for it to only have 36 hours on it. Just as likely that it shouldnt need a head gasket and injector pump after so few hours. If its been repainted, I'm betting viet rebuild with probable a couple turnovers on the tach and shoddy rebuilding. Any yanmar engine needing that major surgery after so few hours is rare indeed. Good luck.

or they just replace them and or turn them back!! could of been bought here and then let sit under a tree for all these years. or the thing is broken when it got here as a rebuild.

Either way it will run keep at it.

 

[j911brick]

I guess its not impossible for it to only have 36 hours on it. Just as likely that it shouldnt need a head gasket and injector pump after so few hours. If its been repainted, I'm betting viet rebuild with probable a couple turnovers on the tach and shoddy rebuilding. Any yanmar engine needing that major surgery after so few hours is rare indeed. Good luck.

I think the two paint colors might be pre assembly and post assembles paint. I know Caterpiller and john deere would do that so assemblies would not rust during production. May be the head gasket was the reason it has low hours. They were too lazy to fix it. These kinds of problems ar not unusual for vehicles that have not been used for many years. THe PO said the injector pump was filled with rust and gunk.

 

[kenmac]

Fredricks buys container loads of these tractors per year, and has for many years.
No body buys as many as he does, and it is well known he only buys the best ones for resale to be shipped here.
He has never had one on his lot that low on hours.
So, go figure

I will say, if you believe it has 36 original hours. That's all that matters