JD 2025R and compairables

[LindenBruce]

Hello All,

So, I need a smallish tractor for light soil movement, rock raking, mowing via MMM, box scraper and just general maintenance. I like the sizing of the JD 2025R. What other makes would be in this same 25HP class? How would the Mahindra Max 26L compare? I like LS and Massie also, but NOT a big Kabota fan sorry Orange guys. I do have a need for a backhoe, but my soil conditions being hardpan and hard packed sandstone, I don't think a hoe in this size class would work for me. ****, a Case 580 has a rough going of it here.

Thanks in advance,
Bruce

 

[1MOA]

I do not have a 2025R but I have 2520 and have used a neighbors Max26. The 2520 is a great tractor as is the 2025, however if you get it wuou will find there are certain implements that will only work on the 30 HP model juuuuust above the 25 hp models (front mount snow blower and the bigger land planes and rear blades).
That being said for any kind of landscaping, or barn work the 2025 and 2520 are PERFECT with a high clearance and a big footprint they will not tear up established ground and when using a tiller or middle buster they plow very nicely. The only issue I have ever had with my 2520 was a QD for the front end loader died the night of a snow storm and had to be replaced.
The Mahindra is a absolutely SOLID tractor and has a different layout but is comfortable and it probably has the best warranty I know of with 5 years of coverage, My neighbor has about 800 hrs on his with lots of use as a loader and bush hoging work with no issues at all.

 

[LindenBruce]

Awesome info thank you. I just have a small garden to plow and windrow so bigger implements would not be used. Nothing bigger than a 60" box blade would be used. And I would prolly get the 54" MMM. Do you know if the 2032R has the same foot print as the 2025R? I really don't want to get a bigger physically sized unit. I love the Mahindra's for sure. Can't beat that warranty. I even like the Branson too.

Thanks,
B.

 

[AxleHub]

Awesome info thank you. I just have a small garden to plow and windrow so bigger implements would not be used. Nothing bigger than a 60" box blade would be used. And I would prolly get the 54" MMM. Do you know if the 2032R has the same foot print as the 2025R? I really don't want to get a bigger physically sized unit. I love the Mahindra's for sure. Can't beat that warranty. I even like the Branson too.

Thanks,
B.

Massey's gc1715 at 25 hp can handle a snowblower, plow blade or tiller nicely . . Yet still stay in a footprint size thats easy to handle and great on hills and hillsides. And if a mmm is in your future . . No brand offers more mmm choices than does the massey. 2 54 inch choices and 2 60 inch choices. And if you get the true mulcher which is what I wanted . . You get a mmm deck that is 55 inches wide (total) and cuts a 54 inch path with no discharge chutes and a clean cut from its 6 blades.

And Massey has both a great 5 year warranty on the gc 1700s plus a heck of an insurance offering that costs me less than $300 for the entire 5 year period against all the things a homeowners policy doesn't cover. And if you want a little bigger size up thrte is the 1700 and 1700e series choices.

 

[Fiziksgeek]

I'm not a fan of the 2025, on paper anyway. The old 2 series had 3 models, 2320, 2520, and 2720. with the redesign, JD dropped it to 2 models the 2025 and 2032. The 2025 is more comparable to the 2320 than the 2520, except for the slightly larger engine. The 2032 is ver much like the 2720. Its slightly bigger, by about 2 inches if I recall, heavier by 300 lbs or so, and had nearly twice the hydraulic flow. both of the JD 2 family tractors have a 2 speed hydro, most other offering in a similar class have 3 range hydros, which will give you better options for different types of work.

I'd take a hard look at the Kubota B series, the 2650 is a great package, or even the 2601 in a slightly smaller size. As Axlehub mentions, the Massey 1726E will get you good hydraulic flow, 3 range hydro, and more weight, which is an advantage for loader work or pulling a box blade.

I'm not familiar with the mahindra or ls models, and even kioti, but there are plenty of folks who are, and I am sure they will chime in soon!

Good luck in your search.

 

[s219]

The Max is a strong little tractor, but not on par with Deere or Kubota in a couple ways -- you'll find it has a lousy seat, the front loader valve lacks smoothness/finesse, and the fit/finish is a little rougher. But you would be saving a few thousand bucks over these other brands, so it may be worth the tradeoff.

 

[RalphVa]

I've the 2025R since July when I finally gave up on my lemony and FEL quirky 1025R.

The 2025R is my best performing tractor so far, flawless FEL hydraulic unlike the tricky one on the 1025 and slow one on the 4010. Just wish they had it in like a 2019R. It's virtually identical to my trouble-free (until the driveline donut busted all apart) for 9 years, 4010. It's the 4010 with 6 more hp, long throw 3ph control and bigger tires. The hydraulic setup is exactly the same, but they moved the filter to a discharge side spin-on instead of the suction side over the suction screen. It supposedly has a tenuated PTO startup but is almost as jolting as the very severely jolting one on the 4010 that likely caused the drive donut to come apart at 660 hours. The smooth startup of the 1025's PTO was about its only feature I'd like in any other tractor.

It doesn't have that sorry underfloor fuel filter that the 1025 has, but the in-bowl fuel filters are the same. Figure that one.

Not sure about the fuel consumption yet, only 25 hours. It was 0.46 gph on the 4010 over 660 hours and 0.61 gph on the 1025 over around 150 hours. Think it's possibly slightly higher than the 1025's was.

Ralph

 

[AxleHub]

Not sure about the fuel consumption yet, only 25 hours. It was 0.46 gph on the 4010 over 660 hours and 0.61 gph on the 1025 over around 150 hours. Think it's possibly slightly higher than the 1025's was.

Ralph

Are the gph calculation numbers based on actual running hours or machine count hours ?

 

[LindenBruce]

I'm not a fan of the 2025, on paper anyway. The old 2 series had 3 models, 2320, 2520, and 2720. with the redesign, JD dropped it to 2 models the 2025 and 2032. The 2025 is more comparable to the 2320 than the 2520, except for the slightly larger engine. The 2032 is ver much like the 2720. Its slightly bigger, by about 2 inches if I recall, heavier by 300 lbs or so, and had nearly twice the hydraulic flow. both of the JD 2 family tractors have a 2 speed hydro, most other offering in a similar class have 3 range hydros, which will give you better options for different types of work.


I'd take a hard look at the Kubota B series, the 2650 is a great package, or even the 2601 in a slightly smaller size. As Axlehub mentions, the Massey 1726E will get you good hydraulic flow, 3 range hydro, and more weight, which is an advantage for loader work or pulling a box blade.

I'm not familiar with the mahindra or ls models, and even kioti, but there are plenty of folks who are, and I am sure they will chime in soon!

Good luck in your search.

I looked at the 1025 and the 2025 this evening. The sales man was really pushing the 1025. It is a nice unit, but too small for what I want. We looked at the specs on the 2032 and yes, more HP and PTO power, heavier, and more hydro flow. BUT, for an additional 4000.00 dollars I thought it was not worth the cost.

I am going to go look at the Massey tomorrow at another dealer hopefully they have the GC1720. I like the other Mahindra tractors I have looked at, but I have not seen one of these little guys so..... Thanks for the info guys it gives me more to think about. B.

 

[AxleHub]

I looked at the 1025 and the 2025 this evening. The sales man was really pushing the 1025. It is a nice unit, but too small for what I want. We looked at the specs on the 2032 and yes, more HP and PTO power, heavier, and more hydro flow. BUT, for an additional 4000.00 dollars I thought it was not worth the cost.

I am going to go look at the Massey tomorrow at another dealer hopefully they have the GC1720. I like the other Mahindra tractors I have looked at, but I have not seen one of these little guys so..... Thanks for the info guys it gives me more to think about. B.

The Massey subcompact gc1700s and the compacts 1700s (regular and e series) offer several size choices certainly. Specific to the Gc1715 and GC1720 . . It will be interesting to hear your opinions of the Masseys you'll see after you've spent time looking at j.d. and mahindra choices. Personally if the Massey dealer doesn't have them to show you . . I think its worth it to drive to the next Massey dealer to see them . . . and if needed . . to the next one after that. Right now for you is "the sweet time". Your building awareness and experience of the choices. This time goes by so fast. When you decide on a tractor, you will look back on this time as the foundation of contentment for many years to come. I read often on tbn that "they are all good tractors today" . . . and I suppose that is accurate on a very basic level. But there are so many differences between refinements and the fit and feel for your body and needs. I remember the 1st time I saw a GC1700 series unit . . . I was so unimpressed because the salesman had no knowledge of all its benefits. But by the next time I looked at them after that . . . I'd done a fair amount of studying and reading and was far more aware of their unique features than was 2 salespeople from 2 different dealers. There's a lot to like with Massey imo.

 

[TSO]

FYI... The Mahindra max is built by Mitsubishi for Mahindra. In my opinion that's a plus.

In this size, most players now offer a nice unit with a 5 year warranty, except Kubota @ 3 yrs and Kioti @ 4 years.

You can make your choice by personal comfort and preference, they'll all be close enough.

 

[Areeves08]

Go drive a 2025R and then drive a Kubota B2601 or B2650. You'll see a world of difference. I was 100% convinced that I'd be buying a Kubota when comparing those size tractors.

 

[jenkinsph]

FYI... The Mahindra max is built by Mitsubishi for Mahindra. In my opinion that's a plus.

In this size, most players now offer a nice unit with a 5 year warranty, except Kubota @ 3 yrs and Kioti @ 4 years.

You can make your choice by personal comfort and preference, they'll all be close enough.

I agree^^^^

They are all good and very comparable. Spend a little time to pick one that you like the best. Others may pick something different but these are so close in abilities that your satisfaction with the tractor you pick is the most important thing to consider.

 

[oldpilgrim]

There are a lot of Max's out there, for a reason. A plus is the Mitsubishi manufacture.

 

[LindenBruce]

Thanks guys I am taking it all in. The closest Massey dealer did not have ANY 1700 series units. He had Massey and Mahindra 1533 the smallest units on the lot. I like the 1533, but I think it is to big for me. So the search continues. B.

 

[AxleHub]

Thanks guys I am taking it all in. The closest Massey dealer did not have ANY 1700 series units. He had Massey and Mahindra 1533 the smallest units on the lot. I like the 1533, but I think it is to big for me. So the search continues. B.

Lindenbruce , can you clsrify:

1. Masseyndealer didn't have any gc1700s or didn't have any 1700s ???

2. Will you look to amother Massey dealer ?

 

[dragoneggs]

Just curious Bruce, why did you rule out Kubota right off the bat... do you just not like the color? I'm not stuck on any brand but am interested why you are against a particular one.

 

[oldpilgrim]

if the 1533 Mahindra is too big, check the 1526. It's smaller than the 1533, larger than the Max, the same size as the older 3016, and an excellent machine.

 

[Paystar]

I'm not a fan of the 2025, on paper anyway. The old 2 series had 3 models, 2320, 2520, and 2720. with the redesign, JD dropped it to 2 models the 2025 and 2032. The 2025 is more comparable to the 2320 than the 2520, except for the slightly larger engine. The 2032 is ver much like the 2720. Its slightly bigger, by about 2 inches if I recall, heavier by 300 lbs or so, and had nearly twice the hydraulic flow. both of the JD 2 family tractors have a 2 speed hydro, most other offering in a similar class have 3 range hydros, which will give you better options for different types of work.

I'd take a hard look at the Kubota B series, the 2650 is a great package, or even the 2601 in a slightly smaller size. As Axlehub mentions, the Massey 1726E will get you good hydraulic flow, 3 range hydro, and more weight, which is an advantage for loader work or pulling a box blade.

I'm not familiar with the mahindra or ls models, and even kioti, but there are plenty of folks who are, and I am sure they will chime in soon!

Good luck in your search.

Ya, and they even inherited all the ongoing issues of the old 2 series. Just read all the forums. Especially Green talk. I wasn't a Kubota fan either, until I passed on green and bought one. Not a single issue.
And ya.....JD offers a 6 year warranty now. looks good on paper but ask the dealers about all the claims that get denied, LOL.

 

[turbo36]

Ya, and they even inherited all the ongoing issues of the old 2 series. Just read all the forums. Especially Green talk. I wasn't a Kubota fan either, until I passed on green and bought one. Not a single issue.
And ya.....JD offers a 6 year warranty now. looks good on paper but ask the dealers about all the claims that get denied, LOL.

What issues are you talking about?