Is the ROPS really needed?

   / Is the ROPS really needed? #121  
Just a couple of days ago there was a guy killed on Collins Road in Parsonsfield, Maine when his tractor rolled on him while pulling stumps. I do not know if he had rops but I doubt it.

He could have been pulling with the pull point above the rear axel creating a back flip. If so, the ROPs Likely would have prevented his death.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #122  
ROPS are only needed ONE TIME....the time they save your life.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #123  
The nice thing about living in the US is that we have the choice to use the safety equipment or not. ROPS, seat belts, chaps, hard hat, eye protection, loaded gun in car, gloves...name it...you can either use it or not. When I was on Fire/EMS we saw a lot of stuff that made you wonder why the victim/patient didn't use the proper equipment or common sense and avoid being hurt. Guess that's why we had many more EMS runs than fire calls.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #124  
I have a love hate with the roll bar. After 20 years of using older machines with no bar I have knocked off the garage door twice, and hit the facia once....I am a slow learner. I also hit the dog teather that runs over head once and tried to rip down the house. All that said I am not taking it off. I look at it like a seat belt, or better yet like a motorcycle helmet....so many places don't require a helmet but you will never see me without one.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #125  
He could have been pulling with the pull point above the rear axel creating a back flip. If so, the ROPs Likely would have prevented his death.
ROPS is not a replacement for lack of common sense. Folks do some very stupid things from time to time. NO amount of safety equipment is a replacement for thinking before you act. The best safety equipment is located between your ears.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #126  
I have no idea why they do it on the BX either!!

When folded, the ROPS would provide next to no protection in a roll over. Your head is above the hinge plane.


As Evil says, pruning the trees up 6' is not only hard on the tree, but looks awful.
Would you believe over 7 foot because it wont go into a standard garage door and since many limbs grown downward rather than up, might even have to make it 8 foot. I put 8 foot doors on two of my shop doors and can get my B26 inside but it wont go in my boat shed door which is only a 7 foot door.
I can relate to those who take of the ROPS on a lawnmower especially those with flat or nearly flat terrain.
I can call those that insist that no one modify or lower a safety device, well lets just say I call them something.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #127  
ROPS is not a replacement for lack of common sense. Folks do some very stupid things from time to time. NO amount of safety equipment is a replacement for thinking before you act. The best safety equipment is located between your ears.

The one best piece of safety equipment on a tractor is your Rops, NOT whats between your ears, Your brain is not a safety device. Your brain can't foresee all. You can be smart as a whip with 40 years in a tractor seat, things happen, doesn't mean your stupid, things happen and the Rops is your backup when they do. To rely only on your brain as a safety device is comical.

Fact 80% of deaths are with experience operators. The 80% probably thought they were smart too.

But please don't try and convince me that keeping a Rops on a tractor that is certified and tested safe, is a stupid statement to make and so far out there that some of you just can't believe it was said.

How about we leave it as you guys think what you want and I'll think what I want, even though my statement sounds so stupid about leaving the factory Rops in place. I'm going to stick with it. I'll be the one without any common sense. And you guys that advocate modification and removal can be the smart ones.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #128  
I am just glad that I now have a building that has a 9 ft door so that my ROPS/Canopy stays up all the time. In the previous building and previous tractor, I put down the ROPS to put it away, and put it up when it came out. Yes it was tiresome at times, to keep doing that, but I live on very hilly ground, and while I have never turned a tractor, over, I do have brains enough to know it is possible to do..
I have seen plenty of pictures of others here that have done just that. And for every picture posted, of a turned over tractor, I bet there are 10 that are too embarrassed to post a picture like that.

So now I have my ROPS, and my steel/insulated canopy, And it is ready to go the second I drive it out of the door. The canopy is not as good as a cab, but it is one heck of a lot better than the sun cooking your brains and body. As for what others do, They can do as they please as far as I am concerned. :)

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   / Is the ROPS really needed? #129  
Would you believe over 7 foot because it wont go into a standard garage door and since many limbs grown downward rather than up, might even have to make it 8 foot. I put 8 foot doors on two of my shop doors and can get my B26 inside but it wont go in my boat shed door which is only a 7 foot door.
I can relate to those who take of the ROPS on a lawnmower especially those with flat or nearly flat terrain.
I can call those that insist that no one modify or lower a safety device, well lets just say I call them something.

A tree pruned 8' up would look like a mushroom lol.

I keep the rops folded down on my ZD except for one spot in the yard that gets mowed only a couple times a year.

The CoG on the ZD is so low it would (will) slide on slopes well before it would roll. Its low and wide. Much lower than the BX.

Of course if there was a drop off, like into a lake, where one wheel could drop down and roll you over, the ROPS needs to be up and locked.
 
   / Is the ROPS really needed? #130  
The one best piece of safety equipment on a tractor is your Rops, NOT whats between your ears, Your brain is not a safety device.

I couldn't disagree more.
 

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