I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

[tradosaurus]

Isn’t that a quaint notion! I still try to live my life without handouts.

Wonder if those college kids getting their loans paid off realize it’s mostly their parents that end up paying for it, or worse, people who never even got to go to college?

You have a tractor and implements and use them for your living. Do you claim any deductions or tax benefits for your business?

 

[Pixguy]

You have a tractor and implements and use them for your living. Do you claim any deductions or tax benefits for your business?

It's a business deduction. Your handout the same?

 

[tradosaurus]

These people think nothing of getting the 10k handout that's funded in part by their neighbors but would never think of knocking at their neighbors door and asking for the handout but if the distribution of monies is done by the gubmint then all is well.

Do you claim any tax deductions when filling out your tax forms?
Let's not be hypocritical.
I have an ag exemption that I used when buying a tractor, implements, and side by side that allowed me to not pay taxes on those purchases.
My guess the one's complaining about "handouts" for EV's have done the same.

 

[cpainter]

So when you do your taxes each year do you not claim any deductions?
Because I would find that hard to believe.

I deduct my expenses, but that's a little different than a straight handout, especially when you are looking at (and bragging about) gaining an advantage over your countrymen at their expense.

 

[tradosaurus]

It's a business deduction. Your handout the same?

Previous generations considered it a matter of pride to support themselves and reject handouts from the government. They thought it demonstrated strength and independence. What a foreign concept that is to some people today.

 

[tradosaurus]

I deduct my expenses, but that's a little different than a straight handout, especially when you are looking (and bragging) about gaining an advantage over your countrymen at their expense.

Previous generations considered it a matter of pride to support themselves and reject handouts from the government. They thought it demonstrated strength and independence. What a foreign concept that is to some people today.

 

[cpainter]

Previous generations considered it a matter of pride to support themselves and reject handouts from the government. They thought it demonstrated strength and independence. What a foreign concept that is to some people today.

You must be right. I'm sure it's all the rest of us that don't understand.

 

[Pixguy]

Previous generations considered it a matter of pride to support themselves and reject handouts from the government. They thought it demonstrated strength and independence. What a foreign concept that is to some people today.

Perhaps you should recite that to yourself while shaving.

 

[tradosaurus]

Perhaps you should recite that to yourself while shaving.

Maybe you should quit being a hypocrite or stop taking handouts (deductions) from the government to prove your point?

 

[Pixguy]

Maybe you should quit being a hypocrite or stop taking handouts (deductions) from the government to prove your point?

You don't know what I deduct yet you brag about your handout.
What would you tell the working poor who take 0 deductions about your handout?

 

[tradosaurus]

You don't know what I deduct yet you brag about your handout.
What would you tell the working poor who take 0 deductions about your handout?

So tell the audience here; Do you take deductions of any kind or use any type of tax breaks for the equipment you own?

 

[cpainter]

Maybe you should quit being a hypocrite or stop taking handouts (deductions) from the government to prove your point?

We hear the same sort of justification comments from welfare recipients. Nothing you can say now nullifies the bragging about taking a clear handout, that we pay for, to support China and our own country's green new deal crowd. Sorry bud, it is what it is.

 

[tradosaurus]

We hear the same sort of justification comments from welfare recipients. Nothing you can say now nullifies the bragging about taking a clear handout, that we pay for, to support China and our own country's green new deal crowd. Sorry bud, it is what it is.

Sorry bud, your hypocrisy doesn't validate your argument against taking $7500 of tax incentives for purchasing an EV while you use tax incentives for purchasing equipment or lowering your property tax on land.
Just admit you and I are taking advantage of available tax benefits because we would be fools not to.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

People wouldn't buy them, and manufacturers wouldn't build them, if not for vast subsidies and legislation to cram them down on people. Didn't the administration just sign something this week regarding over the road trucking?

We aren't going to take your guns... And we will never do double mastectomies on children... Oh, wait... Yes, yes we will.

 

[Hay Dude]

Do you claim any tax deductions when filling out your tax forms?
Let's not be hypocritical.
I have an ag exemption that I used when buying a tractor, implements, and side by side that allowed me to not pay taxes on those purchases.

Tax deductions or state sales tax exemptions for farmers traditionally given for the last 100 years are different than subsidies.

My guess the one's complaining about "handouts" for EV's have done the same.

I’ve never received a subsidy check both in-person for a car that was built by a company that also receives gov. subsidies.

You are bragging about your EV subsidy. Expect pushback.

 

[cpainter]

Sorry bud, your hypocrisy doesn't validate your argument against taking $7500 of tax incentives for purchasing an EV while you use tax incentives for purchasing equipment or lowering your property tax on land.
Just admit you and I are taking advantage of available tax benefits because we would be fools not to.

You haven't noticed that you're the only one here thinking you have a valid and sensible argument? Time to move on unless you want to keep embarrassing yourself. I'm done with this topic and I'm going back to the issue of EV's and their impact.

 

[Pixguy]

So tell the audience here; Do you take deductions of any kind or use any type of tax breaks for the equipment you own?

None of your business but I certainly don't get a check but answer my second question you avoided

 

[two_bit_score]

Good luck. I've already got my $10K rebate (Fed and state)!

If you need a new car it would be foolish not take advantage of money given to you to buy a car.

You paid more than the car was worth.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Dollar tree has also revamped their stores to include other than crap products. Some are fresh food markets.

They are still a crap store, IMHO, and as a business, run poorly with baggage from take-overs and aggressive store build outs.

And Rite-Aid? yeah....opioids.

Just saying....neither are indicative of overall economic health.

I purchase three things from Dolkar Tree, reading glasses, sun glasses, 5 pair at a time and greeting cards.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Good luck. I've already got my $10K rebate (Fed and state)!

If you need a new car it would be foolish not take advantage of money given to you to buy a car.

Just for fun why not peruse all these replies for "likes" which I see none for you. It would be beneficial to you knowing the difference between a tax deduction vs tax credit.
The tax credit you find so laughable (to yourself) reduces your tax liability dollar for dollar while a deduction only slightly reduces one's overall tax bill.
It's humorous to you accepting the credit (i.e., rebate, refund, etc) taking advantage of those not buying an EV and/or higher AGI taxpayers. All tax revenue goes into Federal and state treasuries and EV purchase money (up to $15K total) paid out.
In the end there's no free lunch and it's the working class who picks up the tab one way or the other.