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   / Good morning!!!! #22,161  
?.. getting a new truck today, a Ram 3500 diesel dually, and that should suck up most of the day...

Wow, nice
So does it come with a bed full of oil drums? LOL.

Curious why you switched from GM to Dodge. Had a 2007 GMC 3500 diesel. Can't say that I miss it.

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   / Good morning!!!! #22,162  
Afternoon all, 72F right now heading to 77F. Got first coat of paint on bedroom, just finished lunch so heading back to do second coat.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,163  
why it should take three hours to get out of a dealership with a new vehicle, though they did do the courtesy trade for me.
and get this. With no prior notice, oh, we are required by law to do a safety inspection of your suburban, which looked and is like new at 12K miles,
before we can sell to your friend. 75 dollars. yeah, I just let it sit for a moment, it was so absurd to charge me that when I'm buying a 50K+ truck.
But we can charge the buyer. No. No way. So I ate the seventy five bucks and was supposed to pay for it on the way out at Service, for some reason they could not put it on the bill. Maybe it was illegal....:D
and I forgot to stop, the truck was blocking everything and so when I got home I called them.

ok, so I get home and the honest person I am I call the Service dept and try to pay the 75 bucks. Oh, off to the cashier. That will be 86 dollars and change sir.
Say what? 6% tax ma'am, oh, an environmental disposal fee of what? A rag disposal fee of what?
Grrrrrrr. No, I'll pay the 75 plus tax and that's it. They agreed. Smart people.

half an hour later I got a call back from the salesman/mgr who apologized for the confusion but they all agreed internally to throw out the entire inspection bill because my suburban was so pristine and they basically did zero to check it over.

and this was after finding an additional 299 on the invoice for glass etching. I read every line like a hawk. You really have to. Such a ripoff. Oh but it's already on. Sorry, not paying for it. Five times in my memory this family of dealerships has tried that stunt with me and five times i have refused to pay for it. But they seem to welcome me back...

basically a well oiled and tuned gauntlet of folks doing their level headed best to get into your wallet. Even more...

pretty easy truck to figure out, more sophisticated but not much more complicated than the suburban, which for me means good design. Function over form.
but it is annoying to see "text" options. The factories are pushing unsafe practices on us, phones and texting while driving kill people, plain and simple. So do other things, but why add to the list? They make the cars and trucks ever so much safer, and then allow the driver to be utterly distracted? Illogical, Spock.

My experience with the local Chevy dealer, same dealership chain, wasn't good and I've been buying mostly GM for 15+ years, wanted a change. And the Cummins motor, boosted to 850 torque pounds, is quite peppy when one puts the foot to it. The ride is fair, and will be better when the Bilstein shocks I bought for it are installed. well, now to find a cheap price locally on the blue stuff, DEF. Very small blue fill hole right next to the diesel filler, which is now capless which never made much sense to me.

back to your regular programming from truckland. I'll take a pic later. Sure does hog up my small driveway.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,164  
Drew, be aware that DEF has a short shelf life. When it is too old, cut it 10:1 with water and spray it for fertilizer on your lawn.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,167  
Yes, in the form of urea.

farmer's best friend.
I hope this isn't like ethanol, actually, I know it's not, and apparently it allows the engine to run more powerfully and efficiently by using this treatment.
sold in 2.5 gallon plastic jugs with very small spouts I hope. Thanks for tip on shelf life, I would have stocked up, But I sure want a jug or two in the truck.
Really need to get a tool box in the bed and keep this stuff out of the cab. Hmmm, a toolbox with a diesel tank and a DEF tank built in. :thumbsup:
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,168  
The massive increase in grunt comes from the switch to a diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) strategy to reel in NOx emissions. Earlier versions had to run high levels of EGR and backpressure, which choked output. The presence of DEF fluid and a new SCR catalyst allow the uncorked beast to breathe deeply and exhale even more cleanly.

per Edmunds, knew I read this somewhere. And I think only 32 gallons cap, 10 or 11 DEF.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,169  
The DEF consumption varies with the load on the engine. You might see quite a difference when towing. Somewhere in your text menu, there is a DEF full percentage reading, like 82% full, or 20% full.

My local Dodge dealer doesn't stock DEF anymore. They didn't sell enough to keep within the shelf life. They recommended going to a truck stop where the turnover is faster.


Edit add: Your truck should have come with a DEF pour spout. Look under/behind the seat, glove box, console, etc. Mine is a cap with a flexible plastic tube that replaces the regular jug cap when pouring. Well, that was for a 2011, could have changed I guess.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #22,170  
My diesel engines do not use DEF. But a stop at most truck stops will find DEF right at the pump. Around $2.80 a gallon.
 

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