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   / Good morning!!!! #100,264  
Lot of electricians gouging like mad out there. Since both I and my sister have/had the exact same gen before, installed by an electrician, and paid no more than 11K, quoting 20-22K is simply outrageous.

The first strike against your sister is that she lives in Mill Valley, one of the most affluent cities in a very affluent part of a very affluent state.

Next is all the demand for electricians created by the massive fires in the last year or two. Supply and demand is alive and well here in NorCal. Even that apprentice electrician I tried to hire wanted $40/hour, and the wage scale websites I checked said I should have been able to hire a journeyman for $25.

Third, 800,000 people, most of them in NorCal, woke up yesterday morning in the dark, flipped a light switch, and nothing happened. Those that could jumped in their car and bought whatever generator they could get their hands on. Those, like your sister, without the ability to either find a generator to buy, or that wouldn't know how to hook one up if they did get one, started calling contractors to install one for them. And the over paid electricians mentioned above were only too happy to accommodate them, at double their already outrageous rates. That's how capitalism works, and sometimes it sux to be the consumer in such a system.

To add insult to injury, installing a generator requires a building permit in many jurisdictions. And since Mill Valley is very much anti-growth, such a permit is very costly and has many stupid requirements levied upon it. This isn't Mill Valley, but even in this relatively impoverished county, they want an engineered concrete pad designed for the generator to sit on, and the plan for it has to be signed, in ink, and wet stamped by the registered engineer that designed it. They also want a "single line" electrical drawing that shows all the connections, with each wire, breaker panel, conduit, and component identified and sized, and a site plan of the property showing all existing construction, where the generator will go, and the trenches where all the natural gas/propane/electrical lines will run. And unless all that stuff is in the permit application, it will just sit without them even looking at it to see if they'll approve it. But they'll take your money just fine...:censored::muttering:
 
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   / Good morning!!!! #100,265  
74°F and .34 inches rain. Raining.

Off to town. Wife has annual eye exam with the dilation. A few errands, HD, battery for the new propane generator.
Likely an early lunch in town.

Prayers for all
Be safe
Have a great day
 
   / Good morning!!!! #100,266  
Question for all of you, how much sleep is normal and what can change that?

I can usually get five or six hours in before nature's call wakes me up. Then I may or may not be able to get another few. It all depends on whether or not I start thinking too much, i.e. how much trouble I'm in at the time. And yes, power outages and wildfires don't make good sleeping companions.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #100,267  
54 headed to about 70 depending on clouds, windy and damp but no rain.

RNG, when I lived in Vallejo and Stockton, California wasn稚 so screwed up.

So far, Randy, I've lived in San Jose, Livermore, Dublin, and now a little wide spot in the road called Yankee Hill. San Jose still had huge orchards everywhere when I first moved there. Now it's all parking lots and urban sprawl. The Livermore/Dublin corridor went the same way. Building all that infrastructure created a huge maintenance mortgage, one that it turns out PG&E wasn't paying. CalTrans wasn't keeping up the roads like they were being paid to do; we pay some of the highest tax rates in the country on our gasoline and Diesel. Yet voters kept electing officials that repurposed the money for other things (I could offer an opinion about that, but I don't want to get censored), and now we're paying the piper. Screwed up? You're too kind.:confused3:
 
   / Good morning!!!! #100,270  
So far, Randy, I've lived in San Jose, Livermore, Dublin, and now a little wide spot in the road called Yankee Hill. San Jose still had huge orchards everywhere when I first moved there. Now it's all parking lots and urban sprawl. The Livermore/Dublin corridor went the same way. Building all that infrastructure created a huge maintenance mortgage, one that it turns out PG&E wasn't paying. CalTrans wasn't keeping up the roads like they were being paid to do; we pay some of the highest tax rates in the country on our gasoline and Diesel. Yet voters kept electing officials that repurposed the money for other things (I could offer an opinion about that, but I don't want to get censored), and now we're paying the piper. Screwed up? You're too kind.:confused3:

When I lived in Stockton there were 116000 people scattered over a wide area of the valley and it was Oakies, Arkies, Texans and Chicanos, all friendly, live and let live folks. Now I understand with all the Asian and Latino gangs it’s like Compton.
 

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