Glow Plug

[Anonymous Poster]

In previous posts have advised about my wiring harness woes..on a TL 2300...FRIED.....maybe someone can help me figure out the glow plug....so as I rebuild the wiring harness I can get it right...before I disassembled the harness the glow plug wasnt working.....I must have a good engine as it would even start in the low 30's........
Problem 1.
On the left side of the dash is a button.....no not the horn that is one of the few things that works.....but next to it......when pushed this button makes the electrical idiot light come on........this is the only idiot light that works.......thought for a long time that this was the glow plug........but while takin apart the wiring discovered that the glow plug indicator is a resistor coil and has it's window over by the key......WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BUTTON????
Problem 2.
The glow plug indicator never comes on nor do the actual glow plugs on the block get hot.......Lens12....thanks Bud....sent me a schematic.....yes, I need a manual BAD....any deals?..........the schematic shows that the glow plug indicator has a wire going from a terminal on the key switch, through the resistor, and back to a different terminal on the key switch........my wiring....which had been rebuilt once already I think......had 2 wires going to the correct terminals with a third pigtailed going to the resitor.....could this be right?..........or is the schematic right?..........then the other real question is...............how do you actually get the glowplug to work.......???????.............I imagine it is possibly a key position.............perhaps holding to the left?........well, enough for today.......thanks for YOUR help........

 

[voodoo]

Dennis,
I have a TE 4270 (European equivalent of TL 2500F). Whilst not the same model as yours, wiring loom according to schematic in my parts catalogue shows a paired connection from terminals 17 & 19 of the key switch to the glow plug indicator and continuing directly to glow plugs.

To get the glow plugs to work, turn and hold the key switch to the left. The past 3 mornings we have had 4" snow, morning temp of -4 deg C. (25degF) It has taken about 30-40 secs in this position before firing. Glow coil indicator will show after 10 secs, but will not fire at this point.
Its on mornings like this you really appreciate the cab. Other tractor is a Kubota B6000. Now relieved of duties due to hypothermia exposure /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

On mine, I do not have the button mentioned, but have a dash mounted on / off lever for the electric PTO clutch. Could your button be a push / push switch for the clutch? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[JohnMiller3]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...wiring loom according to schematic in my parts catalogue...)</font>

Hi Nigel,

If you have a scanner, post a partial pix of the wiring... and it will be easier to follow... (for me anyhow) /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[voodoo]

John,
Scanned copy of wiring diagram. Hope this clarifies

 

[voodoo]

Attachment 2: Close up of switch connection

 

[Anonymous Poster]

WOW......JOHN.....this is fantastic.....the wiring diagram that was sent to me is different than this one.....but yours is TOTALLY wired like my glow plug and key switch........what manual did this come out of?

Mine doesnt have the PTO switch.....but gollllly gotta study this......THANK YOU so much

 

[Anonymous Poster]

or was it Nigel......either way.....GOTTA get a clear copy to print......when I tried it got totally pixely.......anyway that you could talk with me a bit and figure out how to maybe break it down into 3 or 4 sections that would be large enough to read and email it to me>>>>>thankkkkkks

 

[JohnMiller3]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...WOW......JOHN.....this is fantastic..... or was it Nigel......either way..... )</font>

Geez Dennis...

I can tell, it takes a lot for something to excite you... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Oh by the way... you're welcome... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hi Nigel... Thanks buddy! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

How's the surveying business in the U.K...?

A few weeks back, it was near zero... and this gal surveyor was outside taking some shots... I felt so bad for her... it was deathly cold to be out for any sustained time... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[voodoo]

Dennis,
Sorry, to keep size within forum limits means a reduction in definition. If you want to send me your email address on private forum, perhaps I could e-mail it to you?

Manual is genuine Iseki parts catalogue for TE 4270. Printed in Japan 1985 by Iseki Foreign Affairs Division. Was able to obtain on-line from a regional dealer only 9mths ago. Not bad considering it is a 17yr old model /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[voodoo]

Thanks John

Nice to know I could be of assistance so soon after registering. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have viewed various discussions in the forums for nearly 2 years now, but never thought of registering until Iseki forum was created.

My surveying involves examination of problems in dwellings for insurance companies. Means I do not get as cold as some as I am usually in occupied houses. Housing market is bouyant in the UK at the moment, so this means I am always busy. More houses = More faults / failures.

Many years ago now, I was involved in ground surveying of river flood plains for local authorities to design flood defences. I still recall vividly bare skin freezing to metal ranging poles and theodolite, and waders filled to the thigh with freezing water and ice. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
The good thing about surveying is that there are many different disciplines. Experience made me wise. Warm work only now /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Nigel......I really do thank YOU for your help....truly.....just posted my email addy. If you would be so kind as to mail me that schematic page life would be totally grand.........which dealer did you get the manuals from?......I took the schematic that was kindly sent to me by another member; but in Japanese to the Japanese language teacher at the school that I work at........lololol......those who can do......sometimes those who cannot...teach......present company excluded of course.......anyway......sure would be fantastic to get a copy of whatever manuals are available.........am halfway common sense mechanical here; but a pic with words says the whole story......I tell my students, if you get a book, you should be able to do brain surgery.......anyway.....thanks again for the help.........

 

[JohnMiller3]

Hi Nigel...

I you get a chance... scan me a copy of the full schematic ... both in grayscale (@ 300 dpi) and b/w (@ 600 dpi)... and email it to my roadrunner account:

jd5205@nycap.rr.com

I'll fiddle with it and see what I can make it look like around 100k file... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Nigel and John.......thanks Nigel for the pdf.......brought it up in adobe photoshop.....fiddled with it, and although not crisp and totally sharp it is totally readable.......now that I can really see it, it is a bit different than what the TL 2300 is. But golly, that is half the fun of doing this isnt it. Figuring and engineering what needs to happen.
Emailed to the links that YOU sent and lets see what they can do for English parts, operators, and repair manuals.
John.........thanks for the efforts and assistance.....seems it is the little pieces that get ignored in the overall process and YOU are keeping this endevour going........THANKS

 

[kayssupply]

Don't be stingy, be sure and share the address if it works out for manuals etc.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Surely am not gonna be stingy with information to the fine folks here.......just gonna be frugal with false leads.....you can bet that when I find a SURE thing it will be posted.......with this in mind............a new post.......