Tires Flat tire

[BurningBushFarm]

Well, when we bought our terrific tractor 18 months ago the rear tires (ag -- with the big lugs) had some big old cracks but being reassured by y'all we moved along.

Our recent radiator replacement went well and a week or so ago I spent 3 hours bush hogging my little heart away with an engine which stayed so nice and cool (relatively). Yeah! :thumbsup:

It's been parked outside and was weedeating around it today to discover a flat tire on the rear. Hubby moved it a little to access the valve and it moved off the open crack, spewing water...

Sooo ... since it seems I can get a finger over (in?) the crack to sort of seal it off ... should we try a tube first? Or just spring for a new tire?

Hoye's site is not giving shipping costs tonight, so have to wait to call. Will check around local guys.

Tire says 9.5 / 9 - 24 Is that the same as 9.5 - 24?

Found the thread on filling, if we go that way. Would we be filling the tube?

Thanks.

 

[careyo63]

My Orig. Ricer's are Dry Cracked also. Been 5 yrs with tubes I believe I've, never added any air yet in 5yrs.

 

[texasjohn]

A lot depends on where exactly the crack is....certain approach is to spring for a new one.
If you have a tire repair guy experienced with tractor tires, his advice after looking at the tire would be best.
Sometimes the crack is located so a patch can be put over the crack and a tube will work fine.
Need a patch to keep tube from getting pinched by the crack.
Yes, I'd keep the tire/tube filled for weight.

 

[California]

I think you will be shocked at the price for a matched pair of new tires.

To save money the old timers would cement a 'boot', a huge strong patch, inside the tire casing, replace the tube, and get back to work. You might have to call around to find a tire shop that does boots since they are no longer used on motor vehicles. That should be good for a few hundred more hours.

Like Soundguy has said - a tractor tire isn't finished until the casing is worn down to showing a couple of the inner fabric plies. (Assuming you still find the traction adequate).

 

[Pete Judd]

Tube it with a patch, a new tire is Wow Bucks. Seems that when you do new tires, you end up buying a pair. Postpone it for a few more years.

 

[savageactor7]

Brush hogging can be lethal to the best of tires. I agree with tubing the tire with an inner patch if you don't want to spring for a pair of new ones.

 

[clemsonfor]

Did not quite understand your message about putting your finger over and gusing etc. But i know its leaking somewhere from your message?

Mine had tubes in them when i got it as i thought most did? I have Japaneese tubes in mine.

Anyway i have small cracks in front and back tires no huge ones. Deffinitly PUT a tube in them. I just had a leaky valve stem in one of mine so i replaced both as both stems were cracked in the tubes. The tubes were about $30/piece and cost me about $85ish dollars to have them put in after taking them to my local guys.

Dont even consider a new tire, you will be close to $150 at the cheapest for a regular ag tire at the very least and closer to $200 probly. Forget buying tubes online unless your buying something else. My shop gets tubes cheaper than i can buy them at TSC and i can get them from Ag supply for about what they pay but the shipping on a single item makes it not cost effective.

And yes you will get a 9.5x24 tube. Keep in mind it may fit a range of tires and say something like "fits tires 9-10x24" which will still fit just means it will fit a 9x24, a 9.5x24, and a 10x24.

 

[deepNdirt]

Seems like we're running neck to neck on our tractor repairs, , I have some brush cutting needing to do myself but been putting it off until I get the other badly dry rotted tire replace, while bush-hogging last year I apparently puncturing the tire/tube I wound up replacing it with a used tire and now it is even showing signs of cracking, the other old and I believe to be the original tire, if inflated all the way will force the inner tube to squeeze through some of the cracks, I've let as much air out as possible to prevent the tube from coming on through so I can at least use the tractor for other tasks,
I've found a few suppliers who has used tires but they also have cracks as well, though not quite as bad as what the tire I'm running, I believe it is a wast of money to buy these and ultimately need to buy more in the near future,
I'm trying to hold out to find a pair of 1-size larger (9.5 x 24 ) tires to go back on rather than spending another 50.00-75.00 on a used tire that is just a LITTLE better condition then what I already have, ... Patching the tire is a good idea if it only has a few cracks, This may get us by for a while, but if they're like my tires I'd have to completely line the inside with patches to do any good,

 

[Car Doc]

Here is an example I found pretty easily works out about $250 each plus freight.

TWO 9.5x24, 9.5-24 8 Ply JINMA JM-284 R 1 Tractor Tires with Tubes | eBay

 

[careyo63]

Was out with the BB. grading the Dr. and again was impressed with what the little 2000 is capable of and snapped a pic. My Org. Ricer's are BA. There showing some age but with no FEL. I haven't had need Load them yet. Or put Air in them for that matter. Thank You Steve. :thumbsup:

 

[deepNdirt]

Was out with the BB. grading the Dr. and again was impressed with what the little 2000 is capable of and snapped a pic. My Org. Ricer's are BA. There showing some age but with no FEL. I haven't had need Load them yet. Or put Air in them for that matter. Thank You Steve. :thumbsup:

Carey, I have to say your 30 year old tires certainly look to be in better condition than the ones on my tractor, the 1st pix is of the used one I replace last year, and the 2nd pix shows how bad the remainder original tire is and explains why I feel I'm running them on borrowed time,

 

[Soundguy]

break it down.. clean out casing.. put a LARGE farm patch on the inside.

clean up the rim

tube it.

remount it

load it if you want to.. then don't worry about it for a few more years..

 

[Soundguy]

Carey, I have to say your 30 year old tires certainly look to be in better condition than the ones on my tractor, the 1st pix is of the used one I replace last year, and the 2nd pix shows how bad the remainder original tire is and explains why I feel I'm running them on borrowed time,

that's nuttin.

I've seen bolted together tires.. and ones laced up with bailing wire!

I got a set of tri ribs on the front of my 4000 that are straight slicks! no ribs whatsoever!

whole different ballgame when you collect tractors that can be 70ys old.. see lotsa old tires..

 

[kenmac]

I bought new because I didn't want to be in the field or woods and have a flat because of old dry rotted tires. I know I can have a flat with new tires but, not as likely as with the old cracked tires I had. I bought 4 for around $900.00. Can't find the ticked but, that amount sounds about right with new tubes

 

[Soundguy]

i figure I'm gonna run over the hidden railroad spike in the lumber whether I got new rubber or old rubber.. that's my luck..

so i run them casings till they are paper thin and let go and blow off the rim! ( funny story.. but I did have a tire casing blow off a rim on my 46 ford 2n... gave in and repalaced that one with a new tire.. oh.. and tube.. )

 

[deepNdirt]

I'm working on a local that has some new mounted on Kubota rims, I asked if he could provide the bolt pattern and Height, My tractor only has approx 3" clearance above the current size tires to the fender ( 8.3 x 24 ) the ones this person has are 14.9 x 26" mounted on wheels, and for only 450.00 for the pr. ( New tires) I'm sure they're going to be way too large for my tractor though.

 

[clemsonfor]

california is runnin those huge kubota tire on his 240. what size are those california? & think he had the centers cut out and his yanmar center welded in?

 

[California]

california is runnin those huge kubota tire on his 240. what size are those california? & think he had the centers cut out and his yanmar center welded in?

12.4 x 24, US R-1 ag pattern, not rice tires. What I have is the 'hat' (disc), the center part, of the original Yanmar 2 piece wheels, then Kubota rims that the previous owner presumably bought with those tires already mounted. The Kubota rims are a perfect bolt-on fit on the Yanmar centers.

I wonder if both US-Yanmar and US-Kubota buy their wheel/tire assemblies in the US for the tractors they sold here.

The tires are US Firestone.

I've noticed that I have two sets of shims raising the fenders above default bolt-to-the-axle height. I think the first set is factory, probably used on YM2000 but not YM1700, and the upper set of shims are unpainted so I assume they were shop-fabricated to clear these replacement tires.

Here's a picture showing the shims and the 2-piece wheels. It's in a thread I posted in 2006 about installing my ROPS.

 

[clemsonfor]

deep if u get those tires i think u may loose some torque. may loose your top gear with those tires when bushhogging or operating on a ahill. California, i dont have any shims on my fenders, there bolted to the axle tube. i know well cause i looked when the tractor was home these last few weeeks. i am gonna paint the sheet metal. it was painted an orange by the vn refurber? its more like kubota orange than red. they repainted the top of a fender for some reason and its noticably red, a different color. i assume it was scratched in the container or unloading and the taped it off and sprayed it with some spray can red, weather yanmar red or not?

 

[Neat 1500]

Mine are similar in condition to Carey's. no problem with them. my YM14 needs a tube in the RL as it now goes flat in about a week now, they are OEM and dry rotted too. they still have 75% tread on them, way too good to send to the dump.