Fergie's in ICU

[Dmacleo]

don't suppose warranty included the upcoming oil change or at least filter/fluids does it?
good to hear its back.

 

[dicktill]

don't suppose warranty included the upcoming oil change or at least filter/fluids does it?
good to hear its back.

Actually, it did. I got a new oil filter, fresh oil, and fresh antifreeze, all at no charge.

 

[Dmacleo]

Actually, it did. I got a new oil filter, fresh oil, and fresh antifreeze, all at no charge.

cool
know what you are gonna be doing in about 49 hours.

 

[hayden]

Great to hear it all worked out. It looks like it took 1 month, pretty much to the day. Not bad, all things considered.

 

[dicktill]

don't suppose warranty included the upcoming oil change or at least filter/fluids does it?
good to hear its back.

Actually, it did. I got a new oil filter, fresh oil, and fresh antifreeze, all at no charge.

cool
know what you are gonna be doing in about 49 hours.

Oh, perhaps I misinterpreted what you were asking. I didn't have to pay for the oil filter, oil, and antifreeze that they just put on, but no, they did not give me extras for the "upcoming oil change" in 49 hours. But hey, I didn't pay for the $7569.52 engine nor the 12.72????? hours of labor, so I'd say it's a win-win.

 

[Dmacleo]

definite win, was not sure how warranty played out regarding the upkeep on new engine.

 

[dodge man]

Good deal, I’m sure it’s a relief to have it back home and running.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Glad she is home and running good as new!

 

[EddieWalker]

Congratulations. I'm really impressed with AGCO and how they handled this. Makes me happy that I have a Massey!!!

 

[dicktill]

A question for the OP. Did they ever tell you what the root cause of your engine problem was ?

No. When I was there Wednesday (posts 104-106), they had pulled out the old engine and installed the new one. I was told that the old one was in a crate (probably the one that the new engine arrived in) and was going to be shipped back to Massey Ferguson for analysis. The dealer's mechanic had not pulled the head nor dropped the oil pan.

Pictures in post #1 were of the hole in the right side of the engine, but I knew there was a hole(s) on the left side hidden behind a bracket, so it couldn't be seen from the outside. Turns out that bracket was the left rear mount. Here's a photo that he took of the left side with the (bent) bracket before he crated it:

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Strange diagnosis? When I was at the dealership last week, I asked the mechanic if he had dropped the oil pan after pulling the engine. His reply seemed strange to me: "Didn't have to, the oil pan was full of antifreeze". I had not seen that on the dipstick after the engine blew.

The service order I got today said: "found antifreeze in oil because bad head gasket caused engine to detonate". I'll take that with a grain of salt. I more strongly suggest that the errant connecting rod cracked the water jacket.

 

[dicktill]

I say 4 more weeks ...

Sorry @Shawn T. W., you were the only entry, but your guess was off by 50%. : )

Thanks for playing, and for a consolation prize, ....

 

[Shawn T. W.]

Sorry @Shawn T. W., you were the only entry, but your guess was off by 50%. : )

Thanks for playing, and for a consolation prize, ....

Depends how we count ... From the date of my post, or how long you were without Fergie?

 

[irvingj]

Without being a pain, see if you can get any further info from the dealer as to the factory determination of what caused the break... if they'll tell you.....

Glad you're back in business!

 

[BleedingOrange]

Most companies do not want to admit liability, possible manufacturing error, or assembly error on their part. If there is one bad incident, usually there are many more, because these items are built on an assembly line, and they do not want the public to find out about it, which might affect their sales.

 

[MossRoad]

Oh, perhaps I misinterpreted what you were asking. I didn't have to pay for the oil filter, oil, and antifreeze that they just put on, but no, they did not give me extras for the "upcoming oil change" in 49 hours. But hey, I didn't pay for the $7569.52 engine nor the 12.72????? hours of labor, so I'd say it's a win-win.

Only 12 hours of labor and less than $8K for engine? That's pretty good!

I read a story yesterday about a service tech that was working on a used $1M 2008 Bugatti Veyron that a customer brought in. The oil change takes 27 hours of labor and cost over $20K.

I'll stick with tractors.

 

[dodge man]

Of course there was antifreeze in the oil, the engine exploded. My guess is you’ll never hear what the cause of failure was. I took apart a small engine years ago that had a rod failure. The connecting rod bolts were almost worn completely smooth, most of the threads were missing.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

@dicktill didn't really specify what he was doing when it came apart ... I just assumed that it was, and had been running for a bit ... Which if that is the case ... A leaking head gasket theory seems a bit of a stretch ... If it happened on start up after sitting for quite awhile ... Maybe ...

 

[masseyrider]

Only 12 hours of labor and less than $8K for engine? That's pretty good!

I read a story yesterday about a service tech that was working on a used $1M 2008 Bugatti Veyron that a customer brought in. The oil change takes 27 hours of labor and cost over $20K.

I'll stick with tractors.

My 2006 Ford GT takes about an hour and cost less than a $120 for a complete engine oil change.
When I hear about the ridiculous costs owners pay for their supercar maintenance you know they are being skinned.
The Veyron falls more into the hyper car class but it's still remove oil plug and filter. Replace and fill with appropriate oil. It's not like you have to go herd dinosaurs and press them for their bodily fluids.
But these are the people who will pay for expensive and exclusive to make themselves feel superior.

 

[irvingj]

I think, in the case of the Veyron, the car needs to be majorly disassembled to get at the engine -- hence the ridiculous cost involved (plus the usual "You want a Bugatti? You gotta pay the price!" markup....).

 

[masseyrider]

I think, in the case of the Veyron, the car needs to be majorly disassembled to get at the engine -- hence the ridiculous cost involved (plus the usual "You want a Bugatti? You gotta pay the price!" markup....).

27 hours labor times $120-40/hr around here is $3240-$3780.
There's still $16000+ to account for.
Filter for the GT now is $30 and oil adds aboot another $50.
So $15,920 to account for.
I guess that's the nose in the air fee.