F350 vs competition

[Paystar]

I looked up the labor to R&I the engine for 2012 1 tons 4WD desiel automatic trucks, everything equal.

F-350 w/ cab removal 13.5hrs w/o cab removal 14.7hrs

Sivlerado 3500 17.1hrs.

Ram 3500 16.4hrs

Good thing Ford is quicker.........because you will be doing it two to three times more than a Cummins or Duramax.

 

[fordmantpw]

Good thing Ford is quicker.........because you will be doing it two to three times more than a Cummins or Duramax.

Yep, because the Ram and Chevy trucks are already in the junk yard since the chassis is shot.

See, we could do this all day long. It's pointless. None of the vehicles are junk any more. Personally, in my experience, Ford has been a better vehicle all around, so that's why I buy Ford's. Doesn't mean people haven't had problems with Fords, doesn't mean that Ram/Chevy are junk, doesn't mean that others' experiences aren't different than mine. To each their own. YMMV!

 

[aczlan]

Good thing Ford is quicker.........because you will be doing it two to three times more than a Cummins or Duramax.

The Cummins might be there, but the Dodge body around it will have Cummins sized rust holes in it
Aaron Z

 

[mikehaugen]

It's pointless. None of the vehicles are junk any more.

I beg to differ, they are all junk. Just gotta pick which "junk" you can live with.

 

[dstig1]

I have to laugh going through this, as my 2005 5.4l F250 works just fine for me. I tow my tractor with it, I haul loads with it, I do whatever I need so far. But since it has 1/5 the hp (or whatever) of these monsters, then it must not work. But yet it does. Do I care that I can't hit freeway speeds in 10 sec when towing my tractor? Heck no. Who's in that kind of hurry? Now if I did it for a living, then I could see the use of diesel from a time, efficiency and longevity standpoint, but I still don't get it for most people's use. No wonder they cost $60k. Don't need it, never will. /soapbox off/

 

[powerstroke444e]

So I watched the video and I am impressed with all of them. I own a 2012 f350 and it is an amazing truck but all of the big 3 have more power than most end users need. I do agree that ford stacked the deck with the axle ratio's.

Compared to my 97 F450 the new f350 will out pull and stop better but the f450 still feels safer when I am hauling really heavy loads.

 

[Soundguy]

Compared to my 97 F450 the new f350 will out pull and stop better but the f450 still feels safer when I am hauling really heavy loads.

when i haul my heaviest loads i switch from my 99 350 to my 99 450.

different axle ratio.. better suspension ( upgraded ).. etc. and yeah.. feels better for just those simple reasons. don't get there as fast though...

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I forget who posted it, but with all of these HP battles, who is actually winning the longevity/cost of ownership? A truck that gets 3 or 4 mpg but tows a cruise ship is of no use to any of us. A truck that costs $100k+ is of no use to most of us for daily use (i'm sure someone could justify it though). I would certainly like a good running truck with decent unloaded mileage (20-25 would be excellent), that doesn't need a laptop to diagnose and I can actually work on it and identify components under the hood with a diesel engine. At some point there is going to be a split between people who use trucks as a grocery getter/family toter/camper toter and those who use them to make a living/run a business.


I posted this before, but it really makes you wonder how anyone got by with a regular cab pick up back in the day. If we believed all of these "Heavy Duty" (none of these trucks are heavy duty) truck ads, you have to have the most/newest/fanciest to get any work done.

 

[Paystar]

Hahaha. I love stirring the pot. I'm allowed to bad mouth Ford's.......I still own one.
I love the trucks themselves, but unfortunately every Powerstroke I've had contact with has been a nightmare. Even after deleting and head studing. I loved the 7.3's though. Maybe I should have done the Cummins swap in one.

Maybe if I had found better dealers I could have tolerated the problems, but unfortunately I didn't. So I had to move on for my new purchases.

 

[Loadstar]

I forget who posted it, but with all of these HP battles, who is actually winning the longevity/cost of ownership? A truck that gets 3 or 4 mpg but tows a cruise ship is of no use to any of us. A truck that costs $100k+ is of no use to most of us for daily use (i'm sure someone could justify it though). I would certainly like a good running truck with decent unloaded mileage (20-25 would be excellent), that doesn't need a laptop to diagnose and I can actually work on it and identify components under the hood with a diesel engine. At some point there is going to be a split between people who use trucks as a grocery getter/family toter/camper toter and those who use them to make a living/run a business.

I posted this before, but it really makes you wonder how anyone got by with a regular cab pick up back in the day. If we believed all of these "Heavy Duty" (none of these trucks are heavy duty) truck ads, you have to have the most/newest/fanciest to get any work done.

LOL you can still buy trucks from the 80's.

 

[KenB2920]

LOL you can still buy trucks from the 80's.

I actually have an 85/86 F350 stake truck with a diesel... BEAST of a truck. Manual trans is a monster.

 

[JESSE1]

The towing wars are far from over. Ford is introducing an improved 6.7 diesel for '15 that is supposed to be available starting next spring. Also bringing back the heavy F-450 pickup with commercial grade 19.5" wheels with a strengthened frame. I figure they will best or equal the Ram's 37,000# GCWR. I have a feeling that the 6.7 will be bumped up around 425 hp/875 torque.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-duty-features-improved-power-stroke-die.html

 

[RobertN]

Sheesh, could retro our older 2nd out fire engine with that; that's a lot more power than the 3208T it has now(Ford 8000 chassis with Beck buildup)

I have a feeling that the 6.7 will be bumped up around 425 hp/875 torque.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-duty-features-improved-power-stroke-die.html

 

[Soundguy]

I actually have an 85/86 F350 stake truck with a diesel... BEAST of a truck. Manual trans is a monster.

I plan on nursing my 2 7.3's as long as i can after reading most of this.

. Also bringing back the heavy F-450 pickup with commercial grade 19.5" wheels

my old f450 has those 19.5" wheels. makes tires a hair spendy..

 

[Loadstar]

I plan on nursing my 2 7.3's as long as i can after reading most of this.

That is also my plan. I want to pick up a 7.3 crew cab long bed for the wife too.

 

[Soundguy]

That is also my plan. I want to pick up a 7.3 crew cab long bed for the wife too.

when my wifes 2000 yukon finally gives out ( and that day doth approach ).. I'm going to try to find her a crewcab .. preferably early 2003 with a 7.3 in it. she tried the small econo-lunch-box car thing and someone tapped her rear and it totaled a brand new, months old car... so we went right back to her suv... but it's an oil hungry gm 5.3 it takes more oil per gas tank than my chainsaw does... since new.. and gm said that's normal.

 

[Loadstar]

when my wifes 2000 yukon finally gives out ( and that day doth approach ).. I'm going to try to find her a crewcab .. preferably early 2003 with a 7.3 in it. she tried the small econo-lunch-box car thing and someone tapped her rear and it totaled a brand new, months old car... so we went right back to her suv... but it's an oil hungry gm 5.3 it takes more oil per gas tank than my chainsaw does... since new.. and gm said that's normal.

Someone in her family has a 03 7.3 cclb dually lariat that is kicking around the idea of new truck. I'll be on that 7.3 like a rat on a cheetoh!

 

[Soundguy]

i don't blame ya...

 

[Degolyerent]

I love my 2000 7.3, I have done some mods to the motor and trans.it pulls really well. I hope it can be the last truck I own for pulling the equipment to jobs. I will rebuild it when it comes time, right now it has 330,000 on it and it runs great.
John

 

[Soundguy]

330000.. nice!