Electronic FEL level indicator

/ Electronic FEL level indicator #81  
This fall I worked on a neighbors yard to clean up a pile of dirt (30 to 40 tons) that had laid on the lawn for 4 or 5 years. I scooped up the excess, and cut the grade to match the rest of the yard. He was satisfied with the results. While I am no grade cutting expert I have done it many times over the years. I just go slow and pay attention and keep making adjustments as I go. With my relatively heavy tractor and loaded tires and my ballast on the 3pt, I can cut into most soils pretty well.

James K0UA
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #82  
Hm-mm, I was puzzled til I went and checked on mine. The overhang is only a little more but the wheelbase on mine is 7 inches less. This would allow a good bit more up down blade movement before the tires began to exert a controlling influence. Also my std bucket bottom is a 2 angle design - very good for digging but less for grading. On further thot the axle height should not be a factor causing change in the tractor attitude under load as I had originally thot.
larry

You can keep 'splainin' this thing to death, if you choose. The fact of the matter is...a level bucket indicator of any type will make you a faster, more productive operator.
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #83  
You can keep 'splainin' this thing to death, if you choose. The fact of the matter is...a level bucket indicator of any type will make you a faster, more productive operator.

Yep. :)
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #84  
You can keep 'splainin' this thing to death, if you choose. The fact of the matter is...a level bucket indicator of any type will make you a faster, more productive operator.

RDR

Well said!

We have the level indicator rod on the NH TL100-A but, only the "stupid" bracket and decal on Kubota B-2710. I am obviously too stupid, and no experience, to do anything but lean right or left to see side of the bucket to see if it's level, at ANY height.

On the NH, with level indicating rod, I am brilliant and have years of dirt moving experience, and can hit a dirt pile or whatever with bucket, grapple, hay spear, etc. at level, on the run.

I still think the self leveling FEL on the LS tractors (and I'm sure others) is the way to go.

Rick
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator
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#85  
Well if people are having a hard time accepting my electronic level indicator, there're really going to have a hard time accepting me grading with my front bucket cam.:)
Level is good, but finding the correct height and in an instant knowing your getting what you want and not peeling turf is even better:thumbsup:
I know, I know I'm not really using correct operating skills, being one with the tractor etc. etc. but I'm having fun.





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/ Electronic FEL level indicator #86  
Well if people are having a hard time accepting my electronic level indicator, there're really going to have a hard time accepting me grading with my front bucket cam.
Level is good, but finding the correct height and in an instant knowing your getting what you want and not peeling turf is even better
I know, I know I'm not really using correct operating skills, being one with the tractor etc. etc. but I'm having fun.

Not to mention doing some fine precision work!:thumbsup:
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #87  
WaxMan, now all you need is one of these. Home Page

But I'm sure you can think of more goodies. :D
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #88  
Wow, that bucket is all kinds of cool!!! I've have not seen anything like it. I could see the front panel replaced with an optional grate for screening material.
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #89  
Well if people are having a hard time accepting my electronic level indicator, there're really going to have a hard time accepting me grading with my front bucket cam.:)
Level is good, but finding the correct height and in an instant knowing your getting what you want and not peeling turf is even better:thumbsup:
I know, I know I'm not really using correct operating skills, being one with the tractor etc. etc. but I'm having fun.

Cheater!!!! Heheheheheh. Love those gauges!!!
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #90  
Waxman's camera gives some of the advantages that a skid steer has over a tractor---visibility for various attachments. For instance, take the attachment linked in JDrancher's post just above. That works great on a skid steer because of visibility. Add Waxman's camera to a tractor and you have that visibility and then some.
That Davis bucket would be a great winter DIY project and would make use of a couple extra remotes.
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #91  
Your indicator is the cats arse:thumbsup:, mine is just a simple rod but sure speeds up leveling the bucket. I welded a washer to a bolt and install to pin that holds the bucket cyl on.




Welded a 1/4" rod 40" long to a piece of 1/2" tubing and drilled a mounting hole in it and drilled a hole in the bucket to mount it. Need to put a small bend in rod to make clearance when the bucket moves.





Leveled the bucket and mark where the rod meet the washer, I then put a small groove in the rod so when the bucket is level the groove slips in to the washer.


 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #92  
Your indicator is the cats arse:thumbsup:, mine is just a simple rod but sure speeds up leveling the bucket. I welded a washer to a bolt and install to pin that holds the bucket cyl on.




Welded a 1/4" rod 40" long to a piece of 1/2" tubing and drilled a mounting hole in it and drilled a hole in the bucket to mount it. Need to put a small bend in rod to make clearance when the bucket moves.





Leveled the bucket and mark where the rod meet the washer, I then put a small groove in the rod so when the bucket is level the groove slips in to the washer.



Gary an excellent ID and write up.. You should start another thread under the build forum so it can be searched later by people looking for ideas.:thumbsup:
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #93  
Wax man , what gauges are those in your last pics?
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #94  
I'm quite happy with the stock bucket level indicator as I've got 1400 hours using it now and know what 1/4" on it translates to at the bucket but that cam would be great! My biggest complaint using the forks is you can't see them when they are set narrow. Digging rocks is fine as you can feel but moving fragile stuff on pallets you can accidently punch holes in the load and uneven ground you don't always see why the forks aren't going in.
 
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#95  
Your indicator is the cats arse:thumbsup:, mine is just a simple rod but sure speeds up leveling the bucket. I welded a washer to a bolt and install to pin that holds the bucket cyl on.

Welded a 1/4" rod 40" long to a piece of 1/2" tubing and drilled a mounting hole in it and drilled a hole in the bucket to mount it. Need to put a small bend in rod to make clearance when the bucket moves
Leveled the bucket and mark where the rod meet the washer, I then put a small groove in the rod so when the bucket is level the groove slips in to the washer.



Thanks, Nice work on your indicator bakerg , You didn't get one with your tractor but you solved the problem. It's nice to be able to see level at an instant.
 
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#97  
I'm quite happy with the stock bucket level indicator as I've got 1400 hours using it now and know what 1/4" on it translates to at the bucket but that cam would be great! My biggest complaint using the forks is you can't see them when they are set narrow. Digging rocks is fine as you can feel but moving fragile stuff on pallets you can accidently punch holes in the load and uneven ground you don't always see why the forks aren't going in.
Bucket cam solves that problem.
 
/ Electronic FEL level indicator #98  
Love that........beyond my skills to build it though..


I received a message about my electronic fel indicator today from another member. I realize it's buried in my Modification thread with no title to find it. So I'm making its own thread so people can find it in the future.

I wanted to make a bucket level rod just like the one I made for my B3030 which I really liked and used, but as with the factory bucket level rod and the one I made for the B3030, you really had to look at it to find the bucket level mark.
The one I made for the Grand L is a little different. You don't have to look.You can see level out of the corner of your eye.

I was going to put the indicator lights inside the cab but that bracket welded to the Fel was left sticking out doing nothing so I used the loop the factory level rod slid through to mount the electronic indicator. Seems to be welded at just the right angle for my indicator. Thanks kubota

How it was made.

The only modification to the tractor was center drilling and tapping the first 3/8 of the upper fel piston pin for a 5/16 stud.
After looking around for the best box to protect the lights, I thought of an outside electrical metal or plastic box. Not happy with the look of those so I figured I would just make one the way I wanted it to look.
I used a block of aluminum stock, milled it out so the arrow indicator lights would fit. The first one looked a little childish with the red arrows showing so I took the lights apart and that allowed me to have a much smaller box with the same size light affect. I cut a piece of 1/4 smoked plexiglass to cover it. It can be seen very well in direct sunlight as the video below shows.

For the rod and tube assembly I used 5/8 steel tubing and a 5/8 stainless steel rod, three 9/16 18 nuts (turned round and milled out to fit the tube) and three backup light switches.

Once mounted and the bucket was level. I marked and milled a groove in the 5/8 rod where the green light sensor was. Another groove just before level and a groove just after level. The grooves had to be on three different sides of the rod in three different places.

Whenever any of the three sensors hit the milled out section the corresponding light will light up. The 12 volt power goes to the positive wire on the led lights in the light indicator box and the switches work on ground only to make the connection, on and off to ground.
No matter what height the fel arms are, if the green light is lit up, the bucket is level once on the ground. Same as the Kubota level rod.


Does it work
The indicator works really well and It's a far better indicator of level then looking for that little bend to center itself in the loop welded to the fel arm, even though the Kubota factory level works well this can be seen a lot better and without the rattling rod. Besides it complements my central vac system.

When the red UP arrow is lit, the bucket is digging 1 inch, which I use my bucket to scrape and slightly dig often. This is a much clearer indicator of slightly digging then the factory loop just out of the bend.
Will it hold up? Time will tell. I have a large project starting next week at my other house . A new gravel driveway, new turn around and lots of fill and regrade the lawn. So that should put it to the test.

The factory level indicator has an adjustment to adjust whats level, (between different buckets I guess). I was going to thread the 5/8 rod at the end and add like a tie rod end for adjustment. But I used the level rod I made on the B3030 that was mounted the same way and never had an adjustment issue.
The only thing I use is the bucket and my forks. I don't need to know the level of my forks cause I have my camera for that. I figured I can always add the adjustment if I ever find the need for it. After all, I wanted to keep it a simple Fel indicator, nothing too fancy, so I left the adjustment off.

The video shows it working in full sunlight as you can see it can be seen easily.


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/ Electronic FEL level indicator #99  
Pretty impressive workmanship.
 

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