Easy way to share transfer pump?

[JDeereman]

Anyone know of a fast, easy way to switch an off-road diesel fuel transfer pump back and forth from one tank to another? or do we need to buy a 2nd pump for a 2nd tank? forget the electric that part is easy. i guess i could use a couple 2" npt unions but i'm hoping for something faster and less bulky. no tools if possible. any ideas?

Theo

 

[tommu56]

What about 2"double tapped bushing with a 3/4 hydraulic quick disconnect on the drop pipe, a male connector on end and a female on pump.

pull up the ring and it's off to go on 2nd tank

tommu

 

[JDeereman]

What about 2"double tapped bushing with a 3/4 hydraulic quick disconnect on the drop pipe, a male connector on end and a female on pump.

pull up the ring and it's off to go on 2nd tank

tommu

Interesting idea if the 3/4" quick disconnect can support the weight of the pump which is both offset and likely to bounce around somewhat on the road. i had a similar idea that also used the drop pipe to support the pump but was warned against it because the drop pipe is too weak. maybe a stronger drop pipe and i'd be all set?

Theo

 

[LBrown59]

Anyone know of a fast, easy way to switch an off-road diesel fuel transfer pump back and forth from one tank to another? or do we need to buy a 2nd pump for a 2nd tank? forget the electric that part is easy. i guess i could use a couple 2" npt unions but i'm hoping for something faster and less bulky. no tools if possible. any ideas?

Theo

Why are you wanting to switch the pump back and forth from one tank to another?
Not clear on what you're trying to acomplish here.

 

[LBrown59]

Interesting idea if the 3/4" quick disconnect can support the weight of the pump which is both offset and likely to bounce around somewhat on the road.

Why is the tank/pump going to be on the road?
I just don't see what you are trying to do here.

Have you considered the possibility of switching the fuel from one tank to the other instead of switching the pump?

 

[LBrown59]

Anyone know of a fast, easy way to switch an off-road diesel fuel transfer pump back and forth from one tank to another? or do we need to buy a 2nd pump for a 2nd tank? forget the electric that part is easy. i guess i could use a couple 2" npt unions but i'm hoping for something faster and less bulky. no tools if possible. any ideas?

Theo

What's the purpose in having the second tank.?

 

[JDeereman]

What's the purpose in having the second tank.?

Probably about the same purpose as having three tractors. one wasn't enough to meet my needs.

Theo

 

[jwstewar]

Good one Theo. I was thinking the same thing. Except multiple tanks makes more sense.

 

[J0be269]

Seriously, LB did bring up one good point. I'm assuming the tanks are residing in the bed of a truck or on a trailer most of the time. If they are pretty close to each otheryou could alway elevate one tank an inch or two higher than the other. Then come up with a way to connect the two tanks at their lowest points. This was your higher tank (without pump) would completly drain into your lower tank (with pump). Would give you the incrased capacity without the need for moving the pump.

 

[AlanB]

Anyone know of a fast, easy way to switch an off-road diesel fuel transfer pump back and forth from one tank to another? or do we need to buy a 2nd pump for a 2nd tank? forget the electric that part is easy. i guess i could use a couple 2" npt unions but i'm hoping for something faster and less bulky. no tools if possible. any ideas?

Theo

Are the tanks physically close to each other or is it something like a tank in your truck and a tank at the house?

In the petroleum world (that sounds wrong) but it is commonly done with Camlocks and hoses. Might need to build a little skid or something for your pump (we have one we keep on a handtruck) and then just put appropriate ends on your stuff.

I am probably spelling the name wrong, but you can look down the list here

Fuel & Energy Classifieds in Moreno Valley, Auctions, and Sales near Moreno Valley, California

and see several versions etc. of Camlocks. An industrial hose house should have them on the shelf in various sizes and configurations to meet your needs, there are also caps etc. available easily.

 

[JDeereman]

Good one Theo. I was thinking the same thing. Except multiple tanks makes more sense.

Sorry (to LB) I couldn't resist. i'm usually a dead serious, no nonsense guy, but the irony drew me in like a moth to a flame.

Theo

 

[JDeereman]

Seriously, LB did bring up one good point. I'm assuming the tanks are residing in the bed of a truck or on a trailer most of the time. If they are pretty close to each otheryou could alway elevate one tank an inch or two higher than the other. Then come up with a way to connect the two tanks at their lowest points. This was your higher tank (without pump) would completly drain into your lower tank (with pump). Would give you the incrased capacity without the need for moving the pump.

Understood but they will be in different vehicles.

Theo

 

[DrRick]

I just unscrew the pump and change it to the other tank. I did put a QD plastic coupler on the hose ( the black banjo fittings ) his makes unscrewing the unit a lot easier. My pump has a plastic downspout the will adjust so I can use it on a 55 gal drum or the smaller transfer tank in my truck. I admit I have several pumps, both electric and hand but I do change them around depending on which one works the best ( one has a faster delivery rate ). I also haul mine on a trailer or in the truck and it does bounce a bit, so any extra connection to the pump body would have to be strong. (disclaimer; In texas it is legal to haul a tank under 105 gal. with diesel without special permits, providing it is not plumbed to the vehicle.)

 

[JDeereman]

Are the tanks physically close to each other or is it something like a tank in your truck and a tank at the house?

In the petroleum world (that sounds wrong) but it is commonly done with Camlocks and hoses. Might need to build a little skid or something for your pump (we have one we keep on a handtruck) and then just put appropriate ends on your stuff.

I am probably spelling the name wrong, but you can look down the list here

Fuel & Energy Classifieds in Moreno Valley, Auctions, and Sales near Moreno Valley, California

and see several versions etc. of Camlocks. An industrial hose house should have them on the shelf in various sizes and configurations to meet your needs, there are also caps etc. available easily.

As above, two different trucks with one in each truck.

Theo

 

[JDeereman]

I just unscrew the pump and change it to the other tank. I did put a QD plastic coupler on the hose ( the black banjo fittings ) his makes unscrewing the unit a lot easier.

That is not a bad idea although I would have to replumb the filter to enable it to unscrew like that. can you elaborate on this hose coupling you use? thanks.

Theo

 

[AlanB]

As above, two different trucks with one in each truck.

Theo

Then camlock and cap the ends, and small transfer hoses and a pump on a skid.

 

[JDeereman]

Then camlock and cap the ends, and small transfer hoses and a pump on a skid.

Yep, we talked about that option. makes a lot of sense too since the pump is not needed for fill-ups. why haul that pump and hose all over creation when it is only needed back on the farm.

Theo

 

[AlanB]

I don't have the camera with me, but could probably do it tomorrow if you want to see what we did.

 

[JDeereman]

I don't have the camera with me, but could probably do it tomorrow if you want to see what we did.

Not necessary but thanks for the offer. We get the concept having discussed it before including advantages and disadvantages of full remove and store concept. i'm just not ready to throw in the towel yet on the quick switchable mount idea. if we can find the right parts for that approach to work and be secure and leak tight on the truck, it would still be our first preference.

Theo

 

[AlanB]

Does your pump pull out the bottom of the pump or out the "back".

If it pulled out the bottom, you could just upsize the camlocks, say to 2", mount them verticle and it would work.

Or, you could put a 2" verticle on your tank (female) then make a 1" drop tube with a 2" male camlock outside of it. The camlock would do the support, while the drop tube would do the pickup.

That is similar to how we do tanks, with a 4" stub, then do a 2" drop through the middle.