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[DT86]

Diamodpilot is correct, They've all had prototype small diesels and they all have failed to make it to production. You read all about them in the magazines and online but we'll probably never get to see one.

 

[94BULLITT]

Now most 1/2 tons are getting high teens or 20mpg, a diesel would not be worth the extra mpg for a couple of mpg.

 

[DT86]

Now most 1/2 tons are getting high teens or 20mpg, a diesel would not be worth the extra mpg for a couple of mpg.

Add to that... diesel is now higher than gas and the diesel option costs more too. :thumbdown:

 

[WilliamBos]

Add to that... diesel is now higher than gas and the diesel option costs more too. :thumbdown:

Both are hovering around $6 per gallon up here, which ever gives the most mpg wins in my book. Not having a diesel 1500 will hurt them in the long run. If nissan ever sold the Aussie diesel patrol over here, that would be my daily driver.

 

[DT86]

Both are hovering around $6 per gallon up here.

I'll stop complaining about paying $3.99 now. I have no clue what gas is running.
Honestly though, I just swipe my card, insert the nozzle and bend over.

 

[timswi]

I'll stop complaining about paying $3.99 now. I have no clue what gas is running.
Honestly though, I just swipe my card, insert the nozzle and bend over.

I buy gas and assume the same position...The gas guy always tells me so and so is selling for 10c cheaper...I just stuff the nozzle and be done with it...:drink:

 

[Cat_Driver]

I have ONLY purchased HINO'S for my business and they are bulletproof. Biggest Mistake I ever listened to was an ACCOUNTANT. I asked her in 1995 if I should LEASE OR BUY my Hino. she said LEASE, why would you want the truck after 4 years. Well that was now almost 20 years now and I've never put a nickle in the truck besides, wipers, brakes, oil etc. I ended up buying from the lease company for a premium.

Then I bough two more with equal results. Currently buying the New Hino Hybrid. Obama is giving me 25K in rebates to buy the Hybrid, so it's an offer I can't refuse.

A few years ago they did a prototype 1 ton. Never went to market. I know a lot of behind the scenes stuff from the mechanic and he says if he has design issues he tells HINO and the next model they implement them if they sound reasonable.

 

[MBTRAC]

And as far as it saying "a replacement for the Unimog" LOL not even close.

Agreed, quite a bit of literary license in the advert "blurb"........................."designed as a replacement for the Hummer H1 and the Unimog U300 clients" ? IMO ,not even a poor imitation & the designers have failed if this was their objective....Yes LOL:laughing::laughing::laughing:

For starters the H1 has portal axles to aid overall clearance , articulation is superior & in my experience will climb over vertical walls if the front wheels drop over the wall before the back axles reach the wall...& just a might easier to train any driver to realise the H1's potential capabilities...

And comparative to a Unimog ? Portal Axles, 4 Wheel disc barkes, min 8speed Forward & Reverse (up to c.70kph) High/Low range + crawler gears, air brakes with on board air supply to run air tools, Air engaged on the fly indidvidually selctable front, rear & centre diff locks, 2WD/4WD, coil springs, hyd remotes....and that's just a basic Unimog spec..

Sure the Ford's a big truck but enhanced for serious off road/expedition type use ? Try it & they'll need something like my U1250 (below) or U1700 to recover the rig

 

[Hay Dude]

There's the ultimate farmers truck there..... let me know whaen you want to sell it.

 

[Diamondpilot]

On direct injection?

(Not buying a Ford.)

Buy what you want but you atr missing out on yhe best 1/2 ton truck. This motor is direct injected.

I will not support GM.

 

[Red Horse]

Nice!

 

[WilliamBos]

Buy what you want but you atr missing out on yhe best 1/2 ton truck. This motor is direct injected.

I will not support GM.

But you support theives? Ford stole the efi system in the ecoboost. Cant wait for them to get it handed to them by the courts!! That will be short lived, the 5.3DI will prove turbos are not needed!!


http://m.autoblog.com/2012/09/04/ford-staring-down-f-150-fuel-injection-patent-lawsuit/

 

[MBTRAC]

There's the ultimate farmers truck there..... let me know whaen you want to sell it.

Thanks - But 'Mogs are so hard to come by I don't think I'll be parting with them anytime soon... running implements on the frt & rear 3PL/PTO/remotes they' re sort of like a hybrid breed of machine a "Trucktor".

IMO the best all round farm trucks we own are the 6x6's:-
- tour ex-Army Internationals (the one pictured has the crane, a tipping tray & a c.20,000lbs PTO winch thats runs frt & underbody to rear, rated @5T it'll do 10T offroad easily ) close to equal to the 'Mogs in most condtions & superior in some, fittted with high flotation tyres or tractor tyres they're unstoppable farm/logging rigs @ c$4-6K they make ATV's look rather expensive
- our "custom" 6x6 Toyota Landcruiser Field Service, ute selectable 6x2/6x4/6x6 & air locker diff's (on all 3 axles), lengthened/strengthened chassis, HD coil over the beefed up Leaf spring suspension, 120000lb winch & a worked 6.5litre GM V8 diesel (@cost close to 'Mog $$$$$ to build )

 

[WilliamBos]

There's the ultimate farmers truck there..... let me know whaen you want to sell it.

Google USA Unimog importers.

Unimog Center Welcome

 

[Diamondpilot]

But you support theives? Ford stole the efi system in the ecoboost. Cant wait for them to get it handed to them by the courts!! That will be short lived, the 5.3DI will prove turbos are not needed!!

http://m.autoblog.com/2012/09/04/ford-staring-down-f-150-fuel-injection-patent-lawsuit/

Ford did not steal a thing. They just improved on it. Thats like saying every manufacturer to follow the first at anything such as a V8, 4x4, ect is a thief.

Either way its a bailed out GM and until a 5.3 can make some torque the point is mute.

Chris

 

[94BULLITT]

But you support theives? Ford stole the efi system in the ecoboost. Cant wait for them to get it handed to them by the courts!! That will be short lived, the 5.3DI will prove turbos are not needed!!

http://m.autoblog.com/2012/09/04/ford-staring-down-f-150-fuel-injection-patent-lawsuit/

Did Ford steal it or did they use a similiar design? How many ways are there to make a gas engine direct injected? I am glad Chrysler or GM never copied Ford.

 

[WilliamBos]

Ford did not steal a thing. They just improved on it. Thats like saying every manufacturer to follow the first at anything such as a V8, 4x4, ect is a thief.

Either way its a bailed ouy GM and until a 5.3 can make some torque the point is mute.

Chris

They violated laws by stealing the exact design and used it. But being it is Ford, that is ok. The ecoboist is unproven compared to the LS Engines. Only after they can put the same miles on the odometre with ZERO failures will it be in the same league as a 5.3L,,

 

[94BULLITT]

The ecoboost so far has been a good engine. I think it will continue to be a good engine. Ford did exstensive testing on it. The GM Ls engines are not as good as the Ford mod motors.

 

[Paystar]

Buy what you want but you atr missing out on yhe best 1/2 ton truck. This motor is direct injected.

I will not support GM.

I'm having a hard time wanting to support Ford anymore....after being constantly r@ped by powerjokes.

 

[Paystar]

You other gents are right....the Unimog IS the ultimate truck.

And for commercial use on road or for towing, my money would go to Hino before I ever buy another overpriced piece of junk from Ford/GM/Dodge/International. Heck, I won't even buy another International heavy truck now that Cat engines are no longer available. The MaxxForce is the powerstroke of class 8's LOL!