BX2200 -- will almost start

[terpdog]

I think there are 2 coils in the fuel stop solenoid. One is energized while starting, and the other is energized while running). Could be the run coil is fubar.

The tractor should start and run with the solenoid removed.

I can pop that off(pretty easy overall) wasn't what I saw in the past. Usually it wouldn't even start to turn over. But, that will have to be tomorrow

 

[Eagle1]

I can pop that off(pretty easy overall) wasn't what I saw in the past. Usually it wouldn't even start to turn over. But, that will have to be tomorrow

Never had a fuel stop solenoid keep it from cranking over. Had it cough and not run but only thing that stopped the started was Starter Solenoid, starter or lack of power.
BTW my BX2200 has 4500 hours and the glow plugs are working fine, damn I bet they die now.....

 

[terpdog]

I did reach out to the Kubota Dealer and they seem to be leaning toward the ignition switch or a wiring issue as well. Also suggested the timer but doubted that and i hate throwing parts at something.

I'll probably trace wiring later today.

 

[thclimer]

I'm betting on fuel issue and as Eagle1 has noted I'd be looking at that fuel solenoid.

Good luck.

 

[Eagle1]

If the stop solenoid is removed and the starter spins over good, there is nothing electrical keeping it from running except the lift pump under the tractor providing fuel to the injector pump.
These things are simple, mechanical injection, no ignition, no ECM, nothing. If you have fuel to injector pump and compression it needs nothing else. If your stop solenoid sticks engaged (or you remove it) you can't shut the thing off electrically.....removing air or fuel is the only way to stop that little motor, well you can stall it with enough load.

 

[Eagle1]

Just a thought did you change BOTH fuel filters? The one under the tractor near the lift pump is normally the one that fills up with gunk

 

[RjCorazza]

Just to throw this out there... Have you checked the air filter?
Fuel / Air / Compression are required.
The clicking sound in the video is the electric lift pump, and it sounds normal.

 

[terpdog]

Just to throw this out there... Have you checked the air filter?
Fuel / Air / Compression are required.
The clicking sound in the video is the electric lift pump, and it sounds normal.

I did check the air filter and I didn't do botth fuel filters I did the one and made sure it was pumping fuel pretty well.

Is the "fuel solonoid" near the start stop one?

 

[Eagle1]

$25 on Amazon or Ebay.

 

[terpdog]

A followup...
1) I took out the glow plugs(they all tested at 1.3 ohms) == they are good.
2) I then connected them to the bar and twisted the key so that the glow plug light was on.

They did not get warm at all.. so it may be a wiring issue. I could have sworn that I tested that connection earlier but it may have gotten fragile(like that leg lamp in the window at christmas).

Next step is to check that.

 

[terpdog]

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$25 on Amazon or Ebay

I have checked that as well.. thank you

 

[jshwhite]

I could be wrong, but I don't think faulty glow plugs would prevent it from starting, unless it's really cold.

Have you checked each injector line, at the injector, while cranking? You should have spurts of fuel when it cranks.

I'm interested to see what you figure out.

 

[SPYDERLK]

There should be a key position just prior to cranking where the glow plugs are automatically energized. A light on the panel indicates power is applied to the glow plugs. In cool weather hold it there for a few seconds to build some heat before you start cranking. It should start quickly.

A followup...
1) I took out the glow plugs(they all tested at 1.3 ohms) == they are good.
2) I then connected them to the bar and twisted the key so that the glow plug light was on.

They did not get warm at all.. so it may be a wiring issue. I could have sworn that I tested that connection earlier but it may have gotten fragile(like that leg lamp in the window at christmas).

Next step is to check that.

It sounds like the ignition switch is doing its job, but somewhere between the indicator light and the glo plug buss there is a fault.

 

[terpdog]

I'll be working over the next few days.. if I can figure it out I will respond with what it is.. otherwise to the dealer it goes :-(

 

[ray66v]

I'll be working over the next few days.. if I can figure it out I will respond with what it is.. otherwise to the dealer it goes :-(

Did you try starting fluid, to verify that it want's to run?

 

[dodge man]

I’d check the rear filter

 

[KWentling]

Did you try starting fluid, to verify that it want's to run?

NOOOOO! No ether on any Kubota!

 

[ray66v]

NOOOOO! No ether on any Kubota!

Good to know, but, I was asking the OP.

 

[Eagle1]

NOOOOO! No ether on any Kubota!

True but now I'm wonder if it was filled with gas. Could be very hard to start with gas instead of diesel.
I will say ether help me troubleshoot the stop solenoid full of water....

 

[KWentling]

Good to know, but, I was asking the OP.

Almost a sure thing to bend a rod using ether on a Kubota engine.