Burying plastic culvert pipe

[Dusty]

The picture I posted of the ditch is on state property. That road is a state numbered route. The state owns 20' on each side of the road. The town maintains the ditche and road. I had them dig this ditch out years ago. The road was built up with wall stones many years ago. Water would flow under the road and into our front yard during heavy rains.

Does the state own this land by deed or do they have a right of way on the land and you have the deeded right to the land and pay the taxes on the land? Is this Route 31 or 122????

 

[LBrown59]

Something I don't understand:

Why does the state need a 3 foot deep ditch across the front of my property when my yard is 3 feet below the paved surface of the highway ? ? ?
I don't see why a ditch is even neded there.

 

[LBrown59]

I do have the proper permission from the Con Com, DCR and Highway Dept. to install this/*
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Here in Oh. you have to get a permit to install a culvert.
What I don't know is if you have to get a permit to repair or maintain a ditch.
I don't even know if you are allowed to even work on the ditch with or without a permit.

 

[LBrown59]

I work for Louisiana DOTD and that would be a big problem for us. We don't allow utility poles to be that close to the roadway. Usually, the poles go at the edge of the highway right-of-way, behind the ditches. Now, it may be different on city or parish roads.

I work for the Louisiana DOTD !​

>>> >>> Could you tell me why your state or any other state for that matter would need a 3 foot deep ditch across the front of someones yard that is already 3 feet below the surface of the state highway? >>>> >>>>
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[JimR]

Does the state own this land by deed or do they have a right of way on the land and you have the deeded right to the land and pay the taxes on the land? Is this Route 31 or 122????

This is Route 56. I do not know if they own the right of way or the land. The highway boundaries are clearly shown on the land maps in the town hall and on our maps when we had the land surveyed.

 

[JimR]

Here in Oh. you have to get a permit to install a culvert.
What I don't know is if you have to get a permit to repair or maintain a ditch.
I don't even know if you are allowed to even work on the ditch with or without a permit.

Like I said. I have already asked and have permission to do this. Nobody mentioned a permit to me during our conversations.

 

[tallyho8]

Could you tell me why your state or any other state for that matter would need a 3 foot deep ditch across the front of someones yard that is already 3 feet below the surface of the state highway?

This is only a guess, but I would think that the ditch would be to prevent water from the road from flowing on to your property and flooding it. Here, it is against code to drain water from your property onto someone else's property.

 

[AndyM]

Something I don't understand:

Why does the state need a 3 foot deep ditch across the front of my property when my yard is 3 feet below the paved surface of the highway ? ? ?
I don't see why a ditch is even neded there.

At some point, the three foot depth is needed to collect rain water runoff and move it to a lower point. The ditch in front of my house is only about six inches deep at one end of my property but it gets deeper further down the road, before it goes across a field and into a large pond. I would rather than the county engineers have it three feet deep in the correct places than to have my property flooded from water running off the road onto my yard!
I trust that the county engineer's crew knows how to manage the location, depth, and slope of the ditches correctly, along with size of culverts and location of culverts that run under the roads, to prevent or reduce flooding of roadways and properties.

By the way, your whole yard isn't 3 feet below the road, is it? It looked to me like it runs significantly uphill from the road.

 

[AndyM]

Here in Oh. you have to get a permit to install a culvert...

I live on a county road... Instead of getting a permit, the county did the work...
For the price I could have bought the culvert only, the county bought, delivered, installed my culvert, and put gravel over it so I could drive over it.

I don't even know if you are allowed to even work on the ditch with or without a permit.

I don't have to do any work in my ditch... The county engineer's office comes through once every couple of years and digs out the ditches to make sure they are sloped the correct way so that the water runoff from the roads goes the right way to prevent flooding of roads and property. It's good to see I actually get something from the taxes I pay!

I don't even have to mow the grass in my ditches... I ran 250 feet of one inch pipe from my house to the road and run the discharge from my water softener to the road ditch... the salt in it kills the grass in the ditch!

 

[tallyho8]

I don't even have to mow the grass in my ditches... I ran 250 feet of one inch pipe from my house to the road and run the discharge from my water softener to the road ditch... the salt in it kills the grass in the ditch!

Watch it Andy. Some environmentalist is going to be after you soon for salting the environment!

 

[AndyM]

Watch it Andy. Some environmentalist is going to be after you soon for salting the environment!

Salt? It's just seasoning... The world could use a little flavor.

 

[tallyho8]

If we did that down here in Louisiana, we wouldn't have to salt our ditch-caught crayfish before we boiled them.

 

[LBrown59]

Funny you should ask this. Most who want to access their property install a culvert and gravel over the culvert to get on their property, I have a 4X 4 pickup and could probably access this using the present ditch. I don't however
one cannot push snow or ice from their drive access back onto a public roadway.
owner becomes liable for accidents and even excessive sanding if required by the local highway dept. Thus, the access top has to be three inches lower than the road..

But the highway Dept. sure can push theirs over onto you!

 

[LBrown59]

This is only a guess, but I would think that the ditch would be to prevent water from the road from flowing on to your property and flooding it. Here, it is against code to drain water from your property onto someone else's property.

I thought road side ditches were to prevent water run off from running over roads.

 

[JimR]

At some point, the three foot depth is needed to collect rain water runoff and move it to a lower point. The ditch in front of my house is only about six inches deep at one end of my property but it gets deeper further down the road, before it goes across a field and into a large pond. I would rather than the county engineers have it three feet deep in the correct places than to have my property flooded from water running off the road onto my yard!
I trust that the county engineer's crew knows how to manage the location, depth, and slope of the ditches correctly, along with size of culverts and location of culverts that run under the roads, to prevent or reduce flooding of roadways and properties.

By the way, your whole yard isn't 3 feet below the road, is it? It looked to me like it runs significantly uphill from the road.

Andy, My house is on the other side of the road and is dowhill about 5 feet from the road level..

 

[LBrown59]

This is Route 56. I do not know if they own the right of way or the land. The highway boundaries are clearly shown on the land maps in the town hall and on our maps when we had the land surveyed.

A right of way does not grant ownership it only permits usage, therefore the land owner still retains full title to the land.
If the highway is ever abandoned or permanently closed the right of way is canceled and full and exclusive rights to the land where the right of way was is restored to the land owner.

 

[Dusty]

I know where you live.... You get so much water there that they built a reservoir near by to contain it all..

 

[JimR]

I know where you live.... You get so much water there that they built a reservoir near by to contain it all..

They didn't build a resevoir to contain the water. They built the resevoir so the People of Worcester would have something to drink other than beer and wine. Not to mention wash their clothes and flush their toilets. The res area is my private rec area.

 

[tallyho8]

I thought road side ditches were to prevent water run off from running over roads.

You think possibly, that ditches could be designed to possibly collect water from one or both sides of the ditch, whichever side needs draining, and drain it away to another location. I am on the River Road that is next to the Mississippi River levee and water running down the levee crosses the River Road and goes into a ditch between the River Road and my property, preventing my property from flooding. And one of my neighbors built up his property before building and his water runs out his yard toward the River Road and drains into the ditch before it enters and floods the road. Two-way ditches, what will they think of next?

 

[Dusty]

You think possibly, that ditches could be designed to possibly collect water from one or both sides of the ditch, whichever side needs draining, and drain it away to another location. I am on the River Road that is next to the Mississippi River levee and water running down the levee crosses the River Road and goes into a ditch between the River Road and my property, preventing my property from flooding. And one of my neighbors built up his property before building and his water runs out his yard toward the River Road and drains into the ditch before it enters and floods the road. Two-way ditches, what will they think of next?

Culvert pipes & Reservoirs??????