bent tie rod

   / bent tie rod #21  
From what I have seen, they do not look like they hang low. I guess I'm going to have to crawl underneath one and take a close up look.

What exactly are you guys doing? Heck Monday night I was out crushing cars with mine! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif But that is a whole "nother" thread. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RedDog
 
   / bent tie rod #22  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am going to keep this to myself as much as possible so I am not shamed and ridiculed by those brands with better support and the I told you so crowd. )</font>
Well, I wouldn't say posting to this thread is keeping anything to yourself, nor should you have to.
Those brands with better support all have parts issues similar to this. Tie rods are not exactly the kind of thing every dealer would keep on the shelves anyway. Filters, belts, bulbs, things like that are common, and many others, but a lot of other major parts are not kept on hand.
Not that it's not irritating, but it's more common across all brands than one may think.
John
 
   / bent tie rod #23  
Well, I just had a better look. Definitely my fault. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Those New Hampshire rocks are unforgiving. Looks like I crushed a couple or zercs as well. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Really wasn't planning on doing all this work on my 50 hr service. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
   / bent tie rod #24  
On 8/24 I ordered a tie rod for one of our customers (he had the CK30 about 3 weeks). The part was backordered. We received it 7 days later.
Take it easy on Kioti, they're really getting there stuff together (my parts guy at Kioti is great!)

Batchelder Sales
Lebanon, Me
 
   / bent tie rod #25  
I messed up the paint trying to straighten the tie-rod, perhaps you're right that they are buckling from sideload rather than bending from impact. Certainly a possibility and a good idea. I am leaning towards running into something and not feeling it with the HST tranny allowing a cushion to the load.

I expect every brand to have some issues but the first time something breaks on the first day of work and I can not get the one part I need is a bad sign. It is ordered, maybe 7 days, but the Kioti guy wasn't budging on 2 weeks minimum. If I had bought ten parts and then the 11th part was backordered I may have more confidence.

By keeping this to myself, I mean me and the Kioti folks. Imagine this in the Kubota forum, or the general O&M forum.
 
   / bent tie rod #26  
You know, RedRocker armored the tar out his CK30. I wonder if he has bent a tie rod? He had some pretty rough terrain. Think I'll send him a PM.
 
   / bent tie rod #27  
I couldn't see a way to cover the tie rod, I haven't had any trouble yet though.
 
   / bent tie rod #28  
To cover the tie rod maybe an extension of the redrocker plate forward and up to the front frame plate. Clearance must be provided for the front axle to articulate but I would rather loose a couple of inches then lose a couple of tie-rods.

My old bulldozer had a belly pan front to rear. Basicly the same thing would be nice on the CK. If a guy mowed lawns or plowed fields all day it would be fine OEM, but it has been demonstrated that even modest rough terrain work can lead to damage of the soft underbelly.
 
   / bent tie rod #29  
Did all of your grease fitting survive intact? I sheared off at least one of mine that go to the front axels near the front differential.
When I get home I am going to do a more thorough inventory.
 
   / bent tie rod #30  
All zercs are fine and greased. The front bushing one is getting a little tough to put grease into but the zercs seem unaffected. The tie rod bent back like I hit a short stump rather than up like I rode up on a log.
 
   / bent tie rod #31  
Yeah, John, be like me, right? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'd never post anything about a problem with a tractor brand I own, huh?! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
   / bent tie rod #32  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Yeah, John, be like me, right? I'd never post anything about a problem with a tractor brand I own, huh?! )</font>
Nope, you sure wouldn't as long as you had no problem!
I don't see any reason not to post about problems, just think it's funny that someone posting to the Kioti forum would think that that is keeping it quiet. Many other forum members read these threads religiously as well.
John
 
   / bent tie rod #33  
Keeping it quiet is a relative thing. I can guarantee that I won't be bragging about the Kioti parts supply system to my neighbors and friends. I also won't be on the general O&M forum bragging unless it is about how good the CK works.
 
   / bent tie rod #34  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( By keeping this to myself, I mean me and the Kioti folks. Imagine this in the Kubota forum, or the general O&M forum. )</font>

Your secret is safe with me...........

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Have you folks considered mounting a cow catcher on the front like the old rail road engines...... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
   / bent tie rod #35  
Quite a lengthy thread for a bent tie rod. I guess Highbeam needed to vent a bit. I don't think it's fair to bash KIOTI parts availabilty in general because of one part. Hopefully after the tie rod fiasco, Highbeam won't need to worry about parts for a while /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

"I used to have a handle on life, but it broke off"
 
   / bent tie rod #36  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I don't think it's fair to bash ***** parts availabilty in general because of one part)</font>

Apparently you have not had to wait on a part. I blanked out the manufacturer brand, because it doesn't matter. If I have to wait on a part to get my tractor fixed, it is a problem! Period. End of story. To accuse the guy of "venting" because he wants better service is a low blow. Venting would be saying that all ***** tractors are junk, the entire tractor line is junk, the engines are junk, etc. It appears to me that he is satisfied with his tractor, but would like a bit faster service on parts delivery. Perhaps by posting that here, the people who can make a difference may read about it and make the parts supply snag go away.

If I have a legitimate problem with a specific item, and others accuse me of venting when I describe that problem, I have to figure that they are hiding something or have a side motive. If it were not for legitimate complaints, companies would never improve their products or service.

But, hey, that's me. I don't care to have my tractor sitting while some logistical issue that doesn't have to be present causes me delays. Maybe other people just want time away from their tractor.
 
   / bent tie rod #37  
His dealer has the part, no problem!
I have a cow catcher on my CK, it's called a FEL.
 
   / bent tie rod #38  
Venting, contributing, asking for suggestions.... Whatever. I have a busted tractor, it is not good. I am sharing my experience and will not be hushed.

The dealer offered to pirate a part from a tractor on the lot because he is also embarassed about the lack of parts availability and knows that it is bad business to make a guy wait. Problem solved, sort of, wouldn't have been if my dealer wasn't so good. Kioti's problem is still there, my experience should give you some warning.

It's not a tie rod issue, it is a parts availability issue. Maybe I just had bad luck this time, but that makes me 0 for 1 and that is 100% failure. There's nowhere to go but up from here.

I will endure. The tractor will run. Life will go on. If you bend a tie rod, don't expect to see a new one real soon.
 
   / bent tie rod #39  
I'd say if this problem still exists in a few weeks you'll have a point. Could be bad timing, or a distribution problem, hopefully just a glitch.
 
   / bent tie rod #40  
I ordered mine yesterday. I'll be sure to post when I get it.
 

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