Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[RoyJackson]

This guy will put ALL vehicle manufacturers out of business. All of them.View attachment 723489

Who is this guy?

 

[Doughknob]

Wage stagnation while the 1% rake in all the profits of increased productivity is a political issue - not a natural consequence of progress.

What does this mean?

 

[Doughknob]

Who is this guy?

Really? U dont know the richest man on the planet?

 

[RoyJackson]

Who is this guy?

Guess it didn't look like Elon Musk to me...

I don't expect he'll put anybody out of business...except maybe NASA

 

[Roric]

The broader background is that our (Western, for the most part) "leaders" decided to eradicate manufacturing decades ago.

Detroit has never really been interested in building low-end affordable vehicles. Aside from Tesla, what makes the news here now ? F150E, MachE - that's about it.

I can't afford a toy (meaning - Just Fun) car, and a full-size truck that I can't drive non-stop across the continent doesn't make sense to me. But, that's Just Me....

Mandated EVs will accelerate this trend of declining manufacturing. People who can't or won't spend @ or near what a Tesla will cost will probably have to look off-shore.

I really don't want to have to pick from what PRC will be allowed/wants to send here for EVs, so I'll likely be shopping Korean if/when I do.

I'll be watching closely (nothing new there) what comes out of Japan, but as I'm old enough to find the CAD price of a modern Civic eye-watering (and, I generally liked the older Hondas), I'm not holding my breathe for a Japanese EV offering that hits my budget. I'm more interested in what happens there with Hydrogen.

May you Live In Interesting Times.....

Rgds, D.

Check out the Mitsubishi Outlander OHEV. We own a 2021 (usually for short trips, but will do long
ones too) Well engineered, well-mannered partial EV. One tank was 110mpg.
best to ya

 

[Roric]

Meant PHEV, All Thumbs in the way

 

[California]

Volvo ad. You can ignore the middle (crash tests). The point they want to make about EV's is in the last 10%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/r8mysk

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Volvo ad. You can ignore the middle (crash tests). The point they want to make about EV's is in the last 10%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/r8mysk

I wish people wouldn't mix climate change in with EVS cuz there's not a connection there per Elon musk. He states there is no scientific evidence proving that humans are causing global warming. His point is we need to save our petroleum products of all the many many things that we require for our human life today from medicine fertilizers and everything else but the main reason for EVS is just they are cost less money to operate and own.

 

[not2old]

$6 gas?
Where do you come up with this BS?

Current price at the corner store is $1.48 litre. x4.5= more than $6.00 per gallon. Canadian dollar and Imperial gallon. Convert to U.S. gallon and $US and it's still over that. I still need my pick-up even at 9 miles per gallon but did just 800KM last year.(500 miles) My dirt bike uses 94 octane at $1.69 litre. Unaffordable gas is closer to you than Europe.

 

[California]

Wage stagnation while the 1% rake in all the profits of increased productivity is a political issue - not a natural consequence of progress.

What does this mean?

Response when someone posted that wages aren't keeping up with inflation. (a couple of pages back).

Best examples are where the employees of Musk and Bezos (Amazon), richest people in the world at the moment, aren't living any better than someone in a traditional industry. The Boomer '50s when one good union job would support a family, are long gone.

Henry Ford raised wages above the industry standard so his employees could buy his cars. Musk? I doubt someone assembling his cars can afford one.

 

[3930dave]

It was the 240d and 300d/300d turbo that was the work horse, parts for those were easy to get everywhere and quit cheap as this was the almost default Taxi.

A Canadian car-guy I know, has way more money to play with than I ever will.

A few years back, he was talking about the length of time that his brother's new MB was spending in the dealership - he did LOL for real, when I asked "I'll never afford one, but I'm just curious, when you buy one of those, do you also park a Hyundai next to it, so you have something to drive ?".

He and his brother had, at one time or another, pretty much every high-end car. His last comment - "The one car I will never sell, is my MB 240D. Change the oil, put fuel in the tank, it runs".

Simple and reliable has a lot of appeal to me..... but it really says something when somebody who could afford to drive literally anything puts it at the top of his Keep List.

Rgds, D.

 

[cqaigy2]

The Tesla Model 3 Australia Vlog.
unplugged EV is the channel name.
Some interesting Solar stuff in here.

 

[PuffyC]

Then you die on that hill, how many European cars did you own to make that claim?

In a previous life I worked maintenance in the automotive sector. If it was sold here, I probably put a wrench on it. It didn’t take long to figure out which cars were good and which cars were bad. Those old MB diesels seemed to run forever. I don’t know if the new ones are as good but they were just about indestructible. Peugeots, Renaults, Fiats, Jags too, you just looked at them sideways and the wheels fell off.

 

[3930dave]

Meant PHEV, All Thumbs in the way

Thanks for the suggestion.

Struggling with the Canadian Mitsu site.... but it looks like the base price is something like $44k CAD. Too rich for my blood.... many new vehicles are, but that says more about me than EVs....

I know things like brake calipers are expensive here on modern Mitsu's, but that may improve once they are in our market longer. ^ only matters to Buy/Hold guys like me; if you rotate vehicles fast, that's a Don't Care issue....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

I was in LA a few weeks ago and regularly saw gas over $5 a gallon. You’d think people would be up in arms at paying twice what some other Americans pay but I talked to one person who thought it was great. They also thought it was great that their taxes were so high because they got so much benefit from it. We talked for a couple hours and the rest was just as surreal.

Those lala folk could get "benefited" (we call it something else, non-printable, up here) even more, moving to Canada.

Olde Expression - Must Be Something in The Water.... but today, I'd say it's more in the air.....

I'm pretty sure that pic that Roy didn't recognize was of Elon smoking dope with Rogan on his show, when he was still based in Cali....

Cause, meet Effect ?

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Just yesterday, I was reading an MCycle article about magnesium production.... seems China supplies something like 80% of the world's magnesium.

Today, just saw this:

‘Battery arms race’: how China has monopolised the electric vehicle industry

Rgds, D.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Hypocrites are the enemy of the righteous.

I thought the righteous were a myth. Have you ever met one?

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I remember in 2008 when Rick Wagoner CEO of GM predicted high gas prices for the foreseeable future and started building little cars. Then the recession hit and gas prices ended up at about $1. After that I stopped listening to GM CEOs

I have spent decades listening to people predict the future. Mostly they get it wrong. I give them the same leeway I give the weather man. Three days is about the limit of accuracy. After that, all bets are off.

 

[RoyJackson]

Just yesterday, I was reading an MCycle article about magnesium production.... seems China supplies something like 80% of the world's magnesium.

Today, just saw this:

‘Battery arms race’: how China has monopolised the electric vehicle industry

Rgds, D.

And, until that's fixed, EV vehicles and batteries will never be viable anywhere

 

[California]

I thought the righteous were a myth. Have you ever met one?

Sure! A few of my unvaccinated inlaws. Just ask em!