B2620 Back Hoe removal and Re attach. How difficult?

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I have this B2620 that has a BH. Wondering how difficult it is to remove and re attach. You owners of B2320/2620/2920 that have a BH that you have taken off and re installed, what do you say?
I had a BX25 but never removed the BH. Had a BX2660 and removed the front bucket one time and like to have never got it back on even though many owners said it was a piece of cake.
OK experienced owners of the small B tractors with BH....... tell me how easy it is to get it off and put it back on or do I sell my implements/buy another tractor just for implements?
Looked for Utube/videos demonstrating it but only found ones for the BX25.

 

[Delphicoder]

Hi John

I too had the bx25 and then traded that on the B2920. I found them both to be about the same level of effort. It gets easier each time. For me removal is pretty easy, but getting it back on takes some time backing it up and aligning pins etc. plus it seems like the hydro hoses always need to be just a few inches longer.

I would love to build a dolly but most of the time I have to take the bh off and on in the gravel driveway. So I try and select the same area in my driveway each time for consistency.

Practice makes perfect they say, I just don't have the need to swap that often. When I do swap, I always think how cool it would be to have multiple tractors ha . Just follow the directions and don't get too frustrated, you will be fine.

 

[maximus1277]

I have a b2320 with a woods 70x backhoe which is similar to the kubota set up. Removal time ... 5-7 minutes. Replacement ... Maybe 15 minutes to align things and reconnect hydraulics. The one thing I don't have to worry about is removal of three point hitch arms with the woods set up, which I think is something you will need to do with kubota backhoe. Once you get the hang of it, you will not hesitate to swap things on and off.... But the first few times you may be frustrated.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Hi John

I too had the bx25 and then traded that on the B2920. I found them both to be about the same level of effort. It gets easier each time. For me removal is pretty easy, but getting it back on takes some time backing it up and aligning pins etc. plus it seems like the hydro hoses always need to be just a few inches longer.

I would love to build a dolly but most of the time I have to take the bh off and on in the gravel driveway. So I try and select the same area in my driveway each time for consistency.

Practice makes perfect they say, I just don't have the need to swap that often. When I do swap, I always think how cool it would be to have multiple tractors ha . Just follow the directions and don't get too frustrated, you will be fine.

I have a b2320 with a woods 70x backhoe which is similar to the kubota set up. Removal time ... 5-7 minutes. Replacement ... Maybe 15 minutes to align things and reconnect hydraulics. The one thing I don't have to worry about is removal of three point hitch arms with the woods set up, which I think is something you will need to do with kubota backhoe. Once you get the hang of it, you will not hesitate to swap things on and off.... But the first few times you may be frustrated.

Thanks for the replys.:thumbsup: I had the multiple tractors (BX25 & B2320) mostly for this reason but traded both of them for the B2620 so back to this same issue. I'll only have to do it once a year during spring to attach the tiller and do any other jobs at the same time requiring rear attached implements and can do it on pavement.
Guess I'll find out in the spring and may make a dolly between now and then which looks like it will make it much easier or it does in the BX25 BH remove/attach videos.
Those with self made BH dollys, any pics or suggestions?

 

[sw03]

Thanks for the replys.:thumbsup: I had the multiple tractors (BX25 & B2320) mostly for this reason but traded both of them for the B2620 so back to this same issue. I'll only have to do it once a year during spring to attach the tiller and do any other jobs at the same time requiring rear attached implements and can do it on pavement.
Guess I'll find out in the spring and may make a dolly between now and then which looks like it will make it much easier or it does in the BX25 BH remove/attaches videos.
Those with self made BH dollys, any pics or suggestions?

Do not even bother doing a Diy dolly..Go to harbor freight and but them..You cannot buy the wood ams wheels for there price.


I dislike putting by BH pn..pins are a total pita.

 

[sandyc]

Got a 2620 this year and find that the loader, backhoe, blower, front plow all go on and off very easy. Muck easier than the B2200 I traded off for the 2620. I made a BH cradle out of old wood and two furniture dollies. Actually makes on and off much easier as I can move the BH to line up the pins versus trying to get the tractor lined up.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Any pics, dimensions of home made and part numbers of Harbour Freight ones that will hold the weight. I have a couple of the Harbour Freight ones but I doubt they will hold the weight of the BH or the ones I have won't. I also have wheels and loose lumber. Dimensions and pics will be appreciated. I've seen commercial ones that are tepee/triangle shaped but wondering about dimensions.

 

[kcender]

Here are a few pics of my backhoe dolly.Originally I made it for my BX25 but modified it to use with my L3240 and BH90.I find removing the backhoe with the dolly to be very easy,it is more work to attach the TPH.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Thanks for the photos. That looks like a Factory made product. I'm not a welder so in my mind I'm picturing 4"x4" wood as my material unless someone did it with 4"x4" and theirs didn't work. It looks like the weight is fairly well close to over the wheels so maybe won't use 4"x4".
I guess I can measure my BH at the contact spots to get the dimensions.
Every time I see some great welding/metal made item I almost get drawn into buying welding equipment but then I realize I've never welded and know zero/nothing about how to do it so guess it's one of those things I'll wait and learn in Heaven when I get there.:cool2:

Here are a few pics of my backhoe dolly.Originally I made it for my BX25 but modified it to use with my L3240 and BH90.I find removing the backhoe with the dolly to be very easy,it is more work to attach the TPH.View attachment 288998View attachment 288999View attachment 289000View attachment 289001View attachment 289002View attachment 289003View attachment 289004

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

I take my BH65 off and on my B2620 almost weekly.

Literally 2 minutes off and 2 minutes on is all it takes assuming the 3pt hitch components are not installed when I want to put the BH back on. Takes way longer to put the 3 pt hitch components on and off.

My trick is a 5' 2*4 piece of wood to help alignment when putting it on. I hook up a little diff. than the book outlines.

I back in and only need to get within 2-3" of good alignment, hook up hydro lines, use the 2*4 to pry the BH to right alignment, adjust height with stabilizer and then back into the BH, drop by lifting the stabilizers THEN use the BH bucket/dipper to push the top in for the two top pins.

2*4 to make the alignment once stabilizers get the height needed to clear the hooks makes it easy.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

Boakly, right on. I put my BX 25 BH on and off a lot. Don't have a dolly but a good gravel lot. Biggest problem was sagging of the hydraulics from setting awhile. Now I block up everything with timber blocks so when the fluid equalizes it is setting up solid in same posistion as when unhooked. A little juggling of the outrigger after hoses hooked gets teh upper pins lined up and they push right in. I keep the pins well lubricated w/90W oil. Yep, easier than installing the 3 PT which problem I am working on. I think I have a toolless hookup and adjustment scheme figured out. Stand by for info later this winter when back in the shop on fabs.

Ron

 

[newbury]

Let me just add - make sure your hydro pressure is right. I've had to run cool water over the hydro lines because of pressure build up on a warm day. Tried getting the ball pushed in a little but couldn't safely manage that, was apprehensive I'd scratch the ball. Have also just let it wait till morning.
My BH70X has long enough lines that I don't have a big problem with lines being too short, but I could see that as a real problem.

 

[tractchores]

Its very easy. I do it constantly, sometimes several times per day. Its a minute or two job. If i need to put the 3pt on that takes 5 mins additional. I built a dolly http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/236155-bh65-backhoe-dolly-build.html and it helps tremendously. I just wheel the bh up, hook up hoses, push it into position, lift the boom, pop in the pins and im done.

One word of caution is that the pins may be stiff or need small hammer at first because the paint makes them a tough fit. It gets easier as they wear a bit. For the 3 pt make sure to lube the round bar on the bottom and move it before long on that new tractor. If it seizes into place its a huge pain to free (took me 2 days the first time and now it moves easily by hand).

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

For the 3 pt make sure to lube the round bar on the bottom and move it before long on that new tractor. If it seizes into place its a huge pain to free (took me 2 days the first time and now it moves easily by hand).

X2 on that... everytime I am near the tractor with any type of lube / grease that shaft gets a hit. Mine does not move by hand but a small screwdriver and nail (for in the end holes for some purchase) is all thats needed now to lightly pry it back and forth.

Sure beats having to take the tires off and using a large hammer / punch like I had to do when I first got the new tractor!!

 

[bbwithdrawls]

I have a l3430 and a backhoe attachment , I've taken it off and on several times, as a matter a fact just yesterday i took off my 3 pt hitch ( about 30 mins) and put on the backhoe( about 30 mins), I don't have any dolly , mine sits on concrete blocks caps to keep it off the dirt , I back up to it lining it up , get it within 3-4 inches then stop and hook up the hydraulics ( outriggers) and use that to move it up and down ,once it in the hook I use the bucket to roll it where i can put the pins in , id advise a light coat of grease and patience lining them up Oh BTW I have the wife driving the tractor and backing it up so i make sure i hadn't pissed her off in the last day or 2 while im back there

 

[tractchores]

X2 on that... everytime I am near the tractor with any type of lube / grease that shaft gets a hit. Mine does not move by hand but a small screwdriver and nail (for in the end holes for some purchase) is all thats needed now to lightly pry it back and forth.

Sure beats having to take the tires off and using a large hammer / punch like I had to do when I first got the new tractor!!

I found a railroad spike works well too, it took a LOT of penetrating oil and banging to losen it the first time because the 3 pt had never been used. I was happy i didn't need to remove a loaded tire to get it!

 

[Lindsey]

I tried using the book 1st time because the ...... put the pins in from the out side dark -22 had to remove the back wheels after that taking off and one not too bad getting the pins to move is a bit of a chalenge even with no sieze on them .but once they start to move can take them out by hand .because of uneven ground a 2x4 and a small jack makes it easy to put back on

 

[Gasifier]

I have been wondering how hard it would be to take my sub frame mounted back hoe off my tractor. I have had no need to take it off yet. And the weight helps when I am moving snow. But after reading this thread it makes me want to try it. I will give it a try, but probably wait until spring now. Snow is on the way. Only got a 1/2" today though. The Hoe with the mechanical thumb is so handy I see no reason to take it off unless I need to. Thanks for posting the pics and ideas though guys. That gives me a good idea of how to go about doing it. Good post and thread JohnThomas. Boakley, your post reminded me of when my father taught me the use of leverage around machines and equipment. That is using your head.

 

[My Hoe]

The one thing I don't have to worry about is removal of three point hitch arms with the woods set up, which I think is something you will need to do with kubota backhoe.

maximus1277,

I seem to remember something about this--you saying that the Woods backhoe allows you to leave the TPH in place, while the backhoe is installed?

And, if so, do you do this? Because I would think that, if one were, perhaps, in rougher terrain, the hitch could get damaged, if it were left in place?

Any insight will be much appreciated.

Thanks.

My Hoe

 

[devildog1]

JT not to worry it's real easy and you can do it real easily. level ground and go slow once you do it you'll say it was easy too. I use to take my BH76 off my B3200 all the time, same as BX23, just a bit bigger.
DevilDog